kubota vs. kioti

[Roadbuilder6]

I am a huge fan of bobcat as company, I had a 335 mini excavator which I loved. I see what you mean with the all wheel steer. My biggest issue with them, is I run iso pattern controls. I can't run the hand and foot control, that normally come with the bobcats. I have had trouble finding a bobcat with those controls

 

[RDrancher]

I am a huge fan of bobcat as company, I had a 335 mini excavator which I loved. I see what you mean with the all wheel steer. My biggest issue with them, is I run iso pattern controls. I can't run the hand and foot control, that normally come with the bobcats. I have had trouble finding a bobcat with those controls

I hate hand/foot controls too. All of the A300's I've seen are joystick controls.

 

[SPYDERLK]

Here is an interesting comparison:

Jd3520 vs 9n ford.

Jd3520 rated 30hp @ PTO and 75 ft lbs torque out of a 91 ci engine.

2n gasser. 23 HP PTO and 84 ft lbs or torque from 120ci.

Aside from them being decades apart and vastly different feature wise, put these engines in two identical tractors. Which will run a bigger PTO implement? The high torque-lower HP one? Or the lower torque higher HP one?

Which one will pull a grade in road great better?

Which would you rather have? 7 more PTO HP? Or 9 more ft lbs of torque?

Gotta have the torquey one. Grunting at a lower pitch gotta count for something. :wink:

 

[GManBart]

Wrong again. Torque does no work. HP gives you a handle on the combinations of force and speed you can achieve. The whole story in one value.
...I took a look at your link. I didnt need it since I know that stuff. "Actual formulas" are not necessary if you understand Energy, Power, and Time and know the E/T equivalent - formulas can make you think you understand cuz you can plug into and get the answer without the proper grounding in concepts. Looks like they were going thru the pertinent points tho. If you have read it, you have not understood it. ... You really need to go talk to a horse.
larry

I never said torque does work. If you "knew all that stuff" you would have known that the "force" in the formula for horsepower is torque, but you didn't.

Still, I'm thrilled that you and LD1 have changed the laws of physics in my favor. As I was driving yesterday I passed a semi, and with a smug little smile thought I'm glad he doesn't know my Tundra can pull heavy loads better than his Kenworth!

 

[GManBart]

Kioti is a fine tractor at 200hrs. At 800, 1000hrs they will start to fall apart. I have had two friends witht them, one the engine threw a rod at 350hrs, the other had the transmission bust, mowing his lawn! Thats not quality. After 5 years, then you will see why people buy John Deere, Kubota, CNH/Ls. They hold up. IF well maintained they will still run like new. A kioti no matter how well maintained and taken care of will start to fall apart after a few hundred hours.

Why did Kubota contract with Daedong to build tractors for them for ten years? Many of those "Kubotas" are still running around BTW.

 

[sd455dan]

Here is an interesting comparison:

Jd3520 vs 9n ford.

Jd3520 rated 30hp @ PTO and 75 ft lbs torque out of a 91 ci engine.

2n gasser. 23 HP PTO and 84 ft lbs or torque from 120ci.

Aside from them being decades apart and vastly different feature wise, put these engines in two identical tractors. Which will run a bigger PTO implement? The high torque-lower HP one? Or the lower torque higher HP one?

Which one will pull a grade in road great better?

Which would you rather have? 7 more PTO HP? Or 9 more ft lbs of torque?

I would rather see the 30 hp Ford 2000 engine vs. the JD
Both nominally 30 hp ratings- but my guess is the 2000 would eat the JDs lunch EVERYWHERE but @ rated speed where it would be a tie....

 

[SPYDERLK]

I never said torque does work. If you "knew all that stuff" you would have known that the "force" in the formula for horsepower is torque, but you didn't.

Still, I'm thrilled that you and LD1 have changed the laws of physics in my favor. As I was driving yesterday I passed a semi, and with a smug little smile thought I'm glad he doesn't know my Tundra can pull heavy loads better than his Kenworth!

I did, but I further recognized that torque when it is combined with rpm provides the distance factor to the force. Torque is not force. It is force thru a lever. You choose or were unable to understand before, but again, : you do not have to have rpm or torque to make HP. You need Force thru a Distance in an amt of Time. Be sure to ask the horse where his torque is.
larry

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

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I am equally as conflicted as you are.

 

[k0ua]

I am equally as conflicted as you are.

That is not conflicted, those are good choices in their respective class. I have a JD also.

 

[Poopdeck Pappy]

That is not conflicted, those are good choices in their respective class. I have a JD also.

How do you like that high dollar drag I rigged up on my garden tractor? It actually worked decently to level out my yard in preparation for laying sod. It worked better once I added some weight on top of the pallet.

You can see a bit of the before and after here, although I wasn't finished working the soil at this point.