L4400 vs Grand L 3940 vs John Deere 4105

[jenkinsph]

mr myers: you see, already you're looking at options included in models beyond the 4400. things get complicated real quick, been there many times myself...... and probably will be there again.....every day I have to remind myself to keep things simple......... best of luck!...and I'm sure it will work out for you whatever route you go.... bb

I think of telescopic links as safety equipment for the most part, and their definitely easier to hook up to heavy implements. I hook up equipment by myself most of the time and several implements such as the boxblade (1250 lbs) landplane (950 lbs) rotary cutter (1200 lbs) can be difficult without it. Being able to back up close and shut down the engine and hitch up the equipment is safer to me. This is also true of the quick couplers in general it is worth the money if it saves someone's hand, leg or other body part.



Steve

 

[dex3361]

If any body needs the information on the extendable links for the L4400 I can get it for them. Just let me know or PM me.

 

[ovrszd]

I don't say this in a condescending manner, just my personal point, if buying a $15-25K tractor and a convenience that will be used every time I hook up the 3pt can be added for $350, I'm in. If the $350 is a deal breaker then I probably can't afford the tractor anyway.

Going from a luxury model to a bottom end model, I miss every single gadget that I gave up, every single time I want to use that gadget. I'm already thinking of taking a loss to trade up to a Grand series to get that back. To me it's kinda like buying a new truck and deleting AC to save a few hundred dollars, wouldn't dream of it.

 

[art]

How do they work on the Kubota? Looking at the pictures I can see that the stabilizers can slide to allow swinging the hitch arms left or right. I can't see how the link ends would telescope though.




Steve

Sorry for not getting back, the telescopic sway arms are adjustable by pin. The links are not but can be added from the grand L-series. I didn't digest all with the first reading.

 

[jenkinsph]

Sorry for not getting back, the telescopic sway arms are adjustable by pin. The links are not but can be added from the grand L-series. I didn't digest all with the first reading.

Thanks for clarifying this.


Steve

 

[e.myers]

oversized-
Point well taken, but for arguments sake.

When I purchase a vehicle, I typically get the lowest priced version of the vehicle that I can get that has leather in it (simply because they don't do vinyl anymore and because I have kids....). And we afford it, because it's what we believe is the best price point for us.

That being said, there are a LOT of options on that vehicle that we choose not to get (satellite radio, moon roofs, 30 inch wheels, etc.... you get the picture).

I'm approaching my tractor purchase from a similar perspective. Sure, I'd like ALL the bells and whistles, but it just wasn't worth 4000 additional on top of the 16000 I was already spending (pre front end loader).

It's not the $350 for the telescoping links that breaks the budget, it's the telescoping links, the draft control, the canopy, the service manuals, the swinging draw bar, the rear work light (or lights!), the heavy duty bucket, the toothbar for the bucket, the additional bucket edge, the top n tilt, the extra remotes for the top n tilt, and even the 75 dollar block heater (since I live in the sunny south).

Point is the line ALWAYS has to be drawn some where. I had a list of wants, saw the total was more than I wanted to pay, so struck some items off, until I got to where I was comfortable with a payment. That in itself doesn't mean I can't afford the tractor.

 

[dex3361]

oversized-
Point well taken, but for arguments sake.

When I purchase a vehicle, I typically get the lowest priced version of the vehicle that I can get that has leather in it (simply because they don't do vinyl anymore and because I have kids....). And we afford it, because it's what we believe is the best price point for us.

That being said, there are a LOT of options on that vehicle that we choose not to get (satellite radio, moon roofs, 30 inch wheels, etc.... you get the picture).

I'm approaching my tractor purchase from a similar perspective. Sure, I'd like ALL the bells and whistles, but it just wasn't worth 4000 additional on top of the 16000 I was already spending (pre front end loader).

It's not the $350 for the telescoping links that breaks the budget, it's the telescoping links, the draft control, the canopy, the service manuals, the swinging draw bar, the rear work light (or lights!), the heavy duty bucket, the toothbar for the bucket, the additional bucket edge, the top n tilt, the extra remotes for the top n tilt, and even the 75 dollar block heater (since I live in the sunny south).

Point is the line ALWAYS has to be drawn some where. I had a list of wants, saw the total was more than I wanted to pay, so struck some items off, until I got to where I was comfortable with a payment. That in itself doesn't mean I can't afford the tractor.

So what are you getting with the tractor or what did you strike off of the list?

 

[Mike Costello]

Can anyone else on this forum elaborate on the telescopic link end issue?

dex 3361, On my Deere 4520 the link ends can be unlocked and pulled out a few inches and allowed to swivel up and down, forward and back to make hitching up to a heavy implement much easier. I also have the sliding telescopic sway bars that allow the arms to move laterally to facilitate hooking up the implement. Just looking for clarification, thanks.



steve

My L4400HST came with telescoping links and swivel ball ends. It's not difficult to hook up my box blade or brush hog. I just back up as close as I can, stop the tractor, and maneuver the arms into position onto the pins. With a little practice it can be done fairly quickly (I get faster each time I do it). Pat's quick hitch system would probably make it even easier, but I just don't have the need yet to justify the cost.

 

[ovrszd]

oversized-
Point well taken, but for arguments sake.

When I purchase a vehicle, I typically get the lowest priced version of the vehicle that I can get that has leather in it (simply because they don't do vinyl anymore and because I have kids....). And we afford it, because it's what we believe is the best price point for us.

That being said, there are a LOT of options on that vehicle that we choose not to get (satellite radio, moon roofs, 30 inch wheels, etc.... you get the picture).

I'm approaching my tractor purchase from a similar perspective. Sure, I'd like ALL the bells and whistles, but it just wasn't worth 4000 additional on top of the 16000 I was already spending (pre front end loader).

It's not the $350 for the telescoping links that breaks the budget, it's the telescoping links, the draft control, the canopy, the service manuals, the swinging draw bar, the rear work light (or lights!), the heavy duty bucket, the toothbar for the bucket, the additional bucket edge, the top n tilt, the extra remotes for the top n tilt, and even the 75 dollar block heater (since I live in the sunny south).

Point is the line ALWAYS has to be drawn some where. I had a list of wants, saw the total was more than I wanted to pay, so struck some items off, until I got to where I was comfortable with a payment. That in itself doesn't mean I can't afford the tractor.

I totally understand and in no way was judging your ability to afford the tractor. Just making a point that in my case the telescoping links would add $5.80 per month and would be used every time the 3pt is used. Pretty good payoff in my world. In my tenure on this site I've never heard someone say they had telescoping links and wished they hadn't purchased them. I don't have XM Radio in my Super Duty either but I have AC.

 

[jenkinsph]

I would think for most of us tools are collected over time, hopefully taken care of and not lost. My first tractor wasn't what I wanted but it still served me well. My new cab tractor does have everything in it I wanted but doesn't have a radio.


If I were to leave off somethings from a tractor order I would choose the options that were easy to add at a later date. Top and tilt cylinder kit, telescopic links, I would forego the block heater altogether (don't need it). I would have the rear remotes in place, get the proper bucket that cutting edges and toothbar would fit when added later.
Lots of these add ons cab be bought and bolted on easily at a later date.


Steve