L6060HSTCC

[Hilbilly]

Today was a day from ****. First I go to the Kubota dealer to meet the salesman and he tells me their service manager died yesterday and the place is in disarray. I go to the dentist and he puts a filling in the wrong tooth. I get out of the dentist office to find someone has hit the side mirror on my truck and broke it ($1,000 for the part). On my way to pick up my wife I almost get sideswiped by a driver on his phone. Go back to the Kubota dealer to see if we can make a deal and his offer is insulting. I'll expand on this in a second. Then on the way home the highway gets shut down because of a rock slide. We have to back track, get in a long ferry line up to cross a river (2 hr wait) and then take back roads to get home. A 3 1/2 hour detour.

The dealer insult was as follows: I bought a used 2015 Massey 1749 HST cab from him a month ago. Last week I did a part search on the Agco parts site and typed in the serial number to see the right parts diagrams. The AGCO site spits out information on the tractor that says the warranty started July of 2015 and ends July of 2020 and the tractor is a 2013 model year not 2015. I was not happy and went to the dealer to see what he intended to do about the misinformation and was basically told they didn't see that as an issue and didn't want to do anything. I was PO'd and said that was not acceptable. I paid for a 2015 and got a 2013. I made 3 offers to resolve this. One was for them to give me what I paid for the tractor as a trade in value on the new Kubota. Today they offered me $1,000 less than what I paid. They misrepresent the tractors age and then to make things right they will take the tractor back, if I give them another $1,000. I'm still fuming over this. I've already put about $2,200 into the Massey and now they want me to give them that plus another $1,000 for the pleasure of buying one of their new tractors for $30,800 more.

By the way I really liked the tractor but not the treadle pedal.

 

[SDT]

Today was a day from ****. First I go to the Kubota dealer to meet the salesman and he tells me their service manager died yesterday and the place is in disarray. I go to the dentist and he puts a filling in the wrong tooth. I get out of the dentist office to find someone has hit the side mirror on my truck and broke it ($1,000 for the part). On my way to pick up my wife I almost get sideswiped by a driver on his phone. Go back to the Kubota dealer to see if we can make a deal and his offer is insulting. I'll expand on this in a second. Then on the way home the highway gets shut down because of a rock slide. We have to back track, get in a long ferry line up to cross a river (2 hr wait) and then take back roads to get home. A 3 1/2 hour detour.

The dealer insult was as follows: I bought a used 2015 Massey 1749 HST cab from him a month ago. Last week I did a part search on the Agco parts site and typed in the serial number to see the right parts diagrams. The AGCO site spits out information on the tractor that says the warranty started July of 2015 and ends July of 2020 and the tractor is a 2013 model year not 2015. I was not happy and went to the dealer to see what he intended to do about the misinformation and was basically told they didn't see that as an issue and didn't want to do anything. I was PO'd and said that was not acceptable. I paid for a 2015 and got a 2013. I made 3 offers to resolve this. One was for them to give me what I paid for the tractor as a trade in value on the new Kubota. Today they offered me $1,000 less than what I paid. They misrepresent the tractors age and then to make things right they will take the tractor back, if I give them another $1,000. I'm still fuming over this. I've already put about $2,200 into the Massey and now they want me to give them that plus another $1,000 for the pleasure of buying one of their new tractors for $30,800 more.

By the way I really liked the tractor but not the treadle pedal.

Dealers are dealers.

Good luck.

Any other dealers around?

SDT

 

[nybirdman]

My understanding is that;tractors are not like motor vehicles based on year built.So yours was built in 2013 and sounds like sold in 2015 and warranted until 2020.I agree your dealer should give you at least what you paid for the MF towards a new tractor.

 

[UpNorth9]

Was the owner of the dealership involved? If not i would call and request to speak with him/her? Maybe go to tge next closest dealership and see what prices they will give you...

 

[Hilbilly]

My understanding is that;tractors are not like motor vehicles based on year built.So yours was built in 2013 and sounds like sold in 2015 and warranted until 2020.I agree your dealer should give you at least what you paid for the MF towards a new tractor.

I keep hearing the same thing about tractor years not making any difference and yet I note the dealers discount their non current models to move them when the new ones arrive. So if the ONLY thing that matters is hours, why are the ones that are only 1 year older sold for less. A direct contradiction to what they tell me.

Was the owner of the dealership involved? If not i would call and request to speak with him/her? Maybe go to tge next closest dealership and see what prices they will give you...

No and I called this morning to find out who the General Manager is and it turns out the second guy in the room was the "Regional Manager" and he was the one making the ultimate decision. No higher place to go. I'm now discussing a deal with another dealer that's further away and have sent him pics of the Massey for trade evaluation purposes but he was very candid and suggested his trade value will likely be less than what I was already offered. I was also very honest with him and told him exactly what happened. He even agreed that the selling dealer has already made his profit on the first sale and should give me full credit on the trade. Of course that's easy for him to say.

We'll see what comes of this. One thing I really like about this new dealer is that he is quick. The other dealer takes several days to get a quote together and this guy did it in about 15 minutes over the phone. Now I need to see what he comes up with for a trade value.

I totally agree, the dealer should have offered the same price as a trade in, especially since there was a $30,800 difference. I feel like he is trying to screw me over twice.

 

[UpNorth9]

This may all be for a reason, life is funny that way... Switch to this or another dealer and life could be better, now and in the future.

 

[SDT]

My understanding is that;tractors are not like motor vehicles based on year built.So yours was built in 2013 and sounds like sold in 2015 and warranted until 2020.I agree your dealer should give you at least what you paid for the MF towards a new tractor.

Year of manufacture seems to not matter when you are buying but it does when you are selling or trading.

Interesting how that works.

SDT

 

[Paystar]

Interesting that my dealer never asks or talks of year when doing a trade. They only look at hours.

 

[mopardude318]

Do tractor model years matter?? - TMT - YouTube

 

[Hilbilly]

I went to another Kubota dealer and talked to him about trading in the Massey for an L6060. I specifically asked him if the year was a consideration or was it just the hours. He said the year is not a big factor but it does come in to play and he did ask me for the year of the tractor I wanted to trade.

Let's say there are 4 same model tractors for sale in the local area. They all have around 300 hrs on them and the same options, ie. they are identical except for the year. They are all listed for the same price but one is a 2013 one a 2015 one a 2017 and a 2018. Which one would you buy?

The year may not matter to some but it does to me. Example the Massey 1749 in my possession. They were produced from 2013 to 2018. In the first few years they had some issues with valves (so far 2 of the valves on my tractor have been replaced at the owners expense .... $4,000). Turns out the supplier had produced defective valves and in later production runs, different valves were used. So depending on when that tractor was produced you could be getting one that likely has defective valves or getting one with the new valves.

Back to the L6060. I received a verbal quote from another dealer and his price for the L6060 was about $1,500 lower than the local dealer (partly because the one he quoted had fewer options) but his trade in value for my tractor was waaaaaay lower. That deal is dead. I may try one more dealer.