Laminate flooring in the basement

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I want to replace the carpet in my finished basement with laminate flooring. There is a sump pump in 1 of the rooms but we have never had water or mold problems. There is a vapor barrier embedded in the concrete floor as well as an intricate drainage system below the floor. Pergo's website says their flooring should not be used in a basement with a sump pump in any part of the basement. Do you think this is more of a disclaimer thing in the case of pump failure? Can you think of any reason why I shouldn't do this?
 
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The flooring may susceptible to moisture permeation...
 
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The flooring may susceptible to moisture permeation...

Agreed, and if the pump should fail, you will surely have to rip out the flooring to dry it... Consider some type of ceramic tile.. It can look like wood, and have an area rug over it for comfort.
 
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Agreed, and if the pump should fail, you will surely have to rip out the flooring to dry it... Consider some type of ceramic tile.. It can look like wood, and have an area rug over it for comfort.
I think a good suggestion. Thinking of the same. We have carpeting and no real moisture issue but I don't want to re do it if something goes wrong.
 
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On the other hand...if there's never been a problem with carpeting getting saturated etc...
 
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If carpet didn't mold while on that floor, laminate will not have a problem. All this gloom and doom talk desn't take into account that ground,secound and even 10th floor residences flood every day and ruin sub-floor as well as laminate. Install what you like and injoy it,tend to problems when and if they arise.
 
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Have you looked at 100% vinyl plank flooring? It's completely waterproof.

It looks just as good as laminate, is easier to install, more durable, and can get wet.

In my opinion, it's a no brainer in this application.
 
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When I was looking for a new basement floor I was concerned about water also. My salesman showed me a laminate floor and out a soaking wet towel on it while we looked around the store. When we came back he removed the towel to show us the floor was not harmed. Well we were sold and had it installed. Then we had water in the basement, the floor was under water. I called the salesman and he told me we had about 3 - 4 hours to remove the floor and dry it out as the water got under the floor. The guarantee was only for water from the top, not under.
After I tore that out we had a sheet good installed that is a cushioned fiberglass floor. It has a stone pattern that makes the seams very hard to find. Since then I found this product..... DRIcore(R) | Subfloor | Subloor R+(R) | SMARTWALL(R)
 
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When I was looking for a new basement floor I was concerned about water also. My salesman showed me a laminate floor and out a soaking wet towel on it while we looked around the store. When we came back he removed the towel to show us the floor was not harmed. Well we were sold and had it installed. Then we had water in the basement, the floor was under water. I called the salesman and he told me we had about 3 - 4 hours to remove the floor and dry it out as the water got under the floor. The guarantee was only for water from the top, not under.
After I tore that out we had a sheet good installed that is a cushioned fiberglass floor. It has a stone pattern that makes the seams very hard to find. Since then I found this product..... DRIcore(R) | Subfloor | Subloor R+(R) | SMARTWALL(R)
When I first started reading your post, I thought... bad test by a salesman... kept reading and saw you learned the hard way. Sorry to hear.
 
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I want to replace the carpet in my finished basement with laminate flooring. There is a sump pump in 1 of the rooms but we have never had water or mold problems. There is a vapor barrier embedded in the concrete floor as well as an intricate drainage system below the floor. Pergo's website says their flooring should not be used in a basement with a sump pump in any part of the basement. Do you think this is more of a disclaimer thing in the case of pump failure? Can you think of any reason why I shouldn't do this?

Yah you don’t want pergo in a basement or anywhere else that has water. We too have had issues with pergo. We now install the vinyl that looks wood. It’s under $2/sf, doesn’t need a pad or other underlayment and doesn’t get glued down.
The problem with pergo and others is the construction- it’s just pressed wood chips or sawdust with a very thin wear layer on the top only. Any water under it or between the planks will swell and ruin the flooring.
Skip it for that application.
 
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Have you looked at 100% vinyl plank flooring? It's completely waterproof.

It looks just as good as laminate, is easier to install, more durable, and can get wet.

In my opinion, it's a no brainer in this application.
Yep, what i will use if i ever get to it. Way down on my list. Put it in my mudroom.
 
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The way I see it I'm running the same water risk with carpet as I am with laminate flooring. Pergo installation requires a vapor barrier between it the floor and, according to them, using it over concrete is OK. I don't see a problem with water wicking up from the floor. Carpet would potentially absorb moisture from below but it hasn't been a problem for years.

I'll check out the vinyl.
 
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Google LVT, luxury vinyl tile. Many styles, patterns, colors, etc. We use it commercially and it holds up very well.
 
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Have you looked at 100% vinyl plank flooring? It's completely waterproof.

It looks just as good as laminate, is easier to install, more durable, and can get wet.

In my opinion, it's a no brainer in this application.

Friend got this in his living room. Looks great and has survived with the new in ground pool and a lot of traffic. The heating and air business has been very good for him.
 
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The way I see it I'm running the same water risk with carpet as I am with laminate flooring. Pergo installation requires a vapor barrier between it the floor and, according to them, using it over concrete is OK. I don't see a problem with water wicking up from the floor. Carpet would potentially absorb moisture from below but it hasn't been a problem for years.

I'll check out the vinyl.

The flooring stores will have a moisture test kit. Remove the existing flooring and glue the little clear plastic “kit” to the floor. It takes a day or two before the results are accurate.
 
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I think the one test I did was tape a piece of plastic to the floor to see what was happening with it.
I have ceramic tile in one room in our basement and then a built up subfoor with laminate on it in another. No issues and its been in place for 14 years now.
 
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Tape plastic to floor, if moisture forms under it over a few days you dont want pergo.
 
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At one time, I was a fan of laminate flooring. Easy to install, affordable, and they looked nice. But since they are basically compressed paper dust, eventually moisture affects them and they start to rise at the edges. Depending on humidity in the air, and that's all it takes, it will eventually rise and give you a ridge at every edge. Additional moisture, either from wet shoes, water leaks or anything else, and this gets even worse.

The bigger names come with great warranties. If you have a bad piece of flooring, they will replace it for free. They will not install it, or pay for somebody to replace it, they just give you the replacement piece of flooring.

Laminate flooring is probably the hardest type of flooring to replace. It breaks at the edges as you take it apart. I don't care how slow and careful you are, a majority of it will break and become junk.

Most is slippery, and scratches easily.

I'm not talking about any one particular brand because I've dealt with just about all of them, and they are all the same.

If you want something similar, but more durable that does not care about moisture, look at the new types of vinyl flooring. It's heavy, but goes together the same, by interlocking edges, or the easier, but cheaper types glue together. There are quite a few out there to look at, and I'm not aware of one being better then another. That's all I use now, and what I recommend to my clients. The decision on what brand is always on which one they like the look and feel of better. I haven't found a brand from the box stores that I consider junk and wont recommend, but that doesn't mean I've tried them all. Just quite a few.

Having said that, tile is still king!!!!
 
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I had a rental that sprung a significant leak.
The birch hard wood in one room was all distorted and total scrap.
To my surprise what survived was the laminate flooring in the adjacent room.
However I will say that it was HD based laminate (vs low density).
Not one piece was damaged even tho there was visible surface water everywhere.
It is all about quality products!

The HD product simply would not absorb water. Also it was the thicker style. (8mm vs cheaper 6 or 7)
Wish I could recall the brand.
 
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I’m putting vinyl strip in my basement as soon as hunting season is over. I’ve don a lot of research and one thing I did find is you want to pick one that has a thicker wear layer. They vary from 5 to 12 mills. For ref one mill equals 0.001”.
 

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