Landpride RBT 4096

[Furu]

I am looking at a used Landpride RBT4096 rear blade. Haven't seen it yet but will look at this coming week. It has two hydraulic cylinders on it, offset and tilt, manual only on the angle. It reportedly has end plates and skid shoes as well. Firm price is $2550 . Consignment dealer says that it has been lowered once and he has tried to get it lowered again but the guy will not budge.

I was really looking at all hydraulic but that could be added later for the angle.

I have a JD 4720 58 HP. I had been looking at the RBT3596 rated 35-80 HP.
The RBT4096 is rated 65-100 HP, which is a bit above my 58 HP. The moldboard is the same length and height on both units. The weight according to the literature is conflicting either 6 lbs lighter (which makes no sense) for the RBT4096 vs RBT3596 or is 19 lbs heaver for the 4096 vs 3596. Either way I don't see much difference that would effect me. I suspect the 40 series rating may come from the 40 series having a 108" moldboard option that would require the extra HP. The unit new without the endplates but with three hyd cylinders is quoted at $3412.

My questions are:
1. Does anyone have a feel as to the price ($2550) being good for a three year old supposedly "lightly used" RBT4096? (have not seen it yet)
2. Does the 65 hp min rating say, stay away for me and my 58 hp machine even though the moldboard is the same and the weight is plus or minus 6-19 lbs different?

Any inputs are welcome. Thanks

 

[MtnViewRanch]

That is a fair price. The additional cylinder and hoses will end up costing you a few hundred $. If it is in great shape it is a deal, if not, then you are still saving some money, but you are getting a used implement that has been worked hard??? I wouldn't worry about running it behind your tractor, it will be fine. Land Pride has some very nice rear blades. :thumbsup:

 

[Furu]

Got a little more information. The cutting edge has never even been turned over. Looking forward to seeing it tomorrow to see what it looks like.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Got a little more information. The cutting edge has never even been turned over. Looking forward to seeing it tomorrow to see what it looks like.

Maybe get some pictures and post them. I am curious as to the condition it actually is in. I have a LP RBT45108 and am wanting an RBT3584 for my smaller tractor. Others on TBN have gotten very good deals on these types of blades.

 

[nwbearcat]

Don't know your plans for it, but you'd definately have enough for your tractor. The weight is going to add up when you add 2 hydraulic cylinders, the end plates and the skid pads vs. the 35 series. I see a new 4096 on tractorhouse w/o the cylinders, end plates and pads for $2K. FYI, you can find 3596's around for about 1/2 that if you can get along with one

 

[Furu]

Don't know your plans for it, but you'd definately have enough for your tractor. The weight is going to add up when you add 2 hydraulic cylinders, the end plates and the skid pads vs. the 35 series. I see a new 4096 on tractorhouse w/o the cylinders, end plates and pads for $2K. FYI, you can find 3596's around for about 1/2 that if you can get along with one

If you can find a RBT3596 for 1/2 that I would love to know where. The RB3596 you can find for 1400 new (so 1/2) but not the RBT3596.

 

[Furu]

Maybe get some pictures and post them. I am curious as to the condition it actually is in. I have a LP RBT45108 and am wanting an RBT3584 for my smaller tractor. Others on TBN have gotten very good deals on these types of blades.

Well I took a look at the RBT4096. The salesman that I had talked to was not there as he had said he would be so I talked to another guy. He told me that they also had a new RBT3596. Went out and took a look at the 3596 and it had two cylinders, manual on the offset. Then looked at the RBT4096 and instead of only the two cylinders (no offset) that I had been told originally, it had all three cylinders. (Surprise) What I wanted anyway. They told me the new RBT3596 with two cylinders was $2550 and the RBT4096 with three cylinders was $2400 firm since it was a consignment sale. Of course the first person on the phone told me $2550 firm due to consignment and only two cylinders so who knows. I think he may have been confused. Anyway they came down on the RBT3596 to $2300 but said they could not move the price on the 4096. It would have cost me another about $350 to add the third cylinder and hose and fittings so I took the more capable and better priced used unit, at $2400 which also included skid shoes and end plates (one of which still had the factory paint, he never put it on just used one) which the 3596 did not have. A $3800 unit new for $2400 with minimal usage.

Very happy with it. Not much wear. The cutting edge does not even have a nick. The moldboard does have some rust but just because the paint got rubbed off. It has been left out in the weather and has some minor pock rust on the frame.

Never dealt with this dealer before but really liked them. Had lots of inventory. They are what my normal dealer was before they went through two different owners. Just wish they were not 2+ hours away in good traffic and 3+ in busy traffic

The pictures you asked for were as I unloaded it and then after hook up. It was a pretty good deal I think.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Thank you for posting the pictures. You got yourself a very nice blade for a good price. :thumbsup: Very annoying when you talk to someone on the phone and get one story and then go in person and get another. At least it worked out for the better for you. :cool2: Now all you need is a hydraulic top link so that you can really pick that blade up for transport.

I sure would like to come across a deal like you got on an RBT3584. Oh well, someday. :drool:

 

[Furu]

I forgot to mention that I decided to drain the hydraulic fluid out of the lines and cylinders since I did not know what condition the fluid was in and did not want to contaminate my system. I am not due for a hydraulic change for another 140 hours and did not want to take the chance.
Well the fluid out of the hoses was pretty clean but when I flushed the cylinders discolored fluid and lots of sediment came out. I guess with a closed end cylinder stuff accumulates. It probably would not make it back out into the main flow line but why take the chance.

 

[mjncad]

You did good on your purchase, and those end plates will make your life easier when it comes controlling where the spoils go.

Just make sure to raise the parking stand before doing any work! Don't ask me how I know.

 

[SI2305]

Hello and congrats on your new acquisition,

It looks like you got a great deal. I only fantasize about using such implements as I run a JD 2305 and I would just LOVE to be able to control my little blade with hydraulics (or electric worm drives, or hamsters or ANYTHING other than manual adjustments. I did have one thought that might account for the rather high HP stated for proper operation. Your blade certainly looks like a fine piece of equipment, but it also looks like it sticks WAAY out behind your tractor. That extra distance combined with the added weight just might make the tractor difficult to control as the rear blade sinks into earth, especially when the blade gets angled. Mind you, this is only one thought and it might well be incorrect, but I too have looked at that very same blade (while dreaming of owning a larger tractor) and wondered why the HP requirements seemed so high for a blade that appears to be functionally near identical to its barely smaller cousin, the RBT 35. I am just guessing, but would you let us know how your tractor (I think it will work just fine personally, but then again, what do I know) works when the blade is engaged.

One of the reasons I dream of a larger blade is that mine is mainly used for clearing snow, and I would love to have one that clears more than just my own tracks (60" angled = 48" cleared) and I would also love to be able to wing the material off the road further.

Please let us know with a post of email me personally,

SI 2305

200cx, LX4, 60" grader blade, 60" Land Pride RFM, Middle buster, Pat's Easy Change, 3pt trailer hitch, 6' homemade landscape rake

 

[Furu]

I never updated this thread as one guy asked me to.
I will start off with I love this RBT4096. The three way hydraulics give me infinite on the fly control of all three angles and I use all three sometimes in very small increments adjusting constantly depending upon what I am doing. I can not imagine not having all three hydraulic adjustments and what it would do as far as affecting my productivity and the finesse with which I can adjust without stopping and having to go back and make some incremental 15 degree movement then restarting.

Question as far as would the tractor handle it, loaded up.
I had a lot of concern about that as the RBT4096 was rated for 60-100 hp and I was just under the 60 hp with my year model and at the low end of the range to boot. I figured I would just have to take smaller bites and not so deep at a time. When I took it out I found I was thrilled with how my tractor could load up the blade and still move dirt and rock. I have not yet used it on snow (just drive through it with the equipment and truck) but expect that to be a piece of cake even with the wet and heavy stuff we get. I have used it to repair a logging road that has gone without repair for 11 years. The road that I have worked on is about 4500 feet with a 350 ft rise (a bit over 7% slope), of course there are steeper places and shallower places. I have loaded a couple of pictures of the blade partially loaded. This is on an up hill segment. The tractor has performed so much better with this blade than I ever thought it would. Even with it swung way to the side and angled I have been able to track almost straight with very little side slippage. I have R-4 tires with a lot of weight in them which helps.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Thanks for the pictures, these blades are really nice to have and use.

 

[94BULLITT]

That is a really nice blade.