Larger tires for 2305

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Has anyone looked into putting larger tires on a 2305? I believe larger tires would actually make the tractor more stable when using the FEL because the load in the bucket could be carried below the axle centerline instead of equal or above as the stock tires require.
 
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Has anyone looked into putting larger tires on a 2305? I believe larger tires would actually make the tractor more stable when using the FEL because the load in the bucket could be carried below the axle centerline instead of equal or above as the stock tires require.
 
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Are you talking larger tires on the front? rear? or both?

More stability with a load in the bucket comes from weight on the rear, either fluid in the tires, wheel weights, ballast on the 3pt or some combination of all three. Just that there needs to be adequate weight on the rear to keep stability. The manual will recommend lots of weight. I think it is cheaper than larger tires.
 
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Are you talking larger tires on the front? rear? or both?

More stability with a load in the bucket comes from weight on the rear, either fluid in the tires, wheel weights, ballast on the 3pt or some combination of all three. Just that there needs to be adequate weight on the rear to keep stability. The manual will recommend lots of weight. I think it is cheaper than larger tires.
 
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Larger tires both front and rear. I do have a ballast bow and it helps but the real problem is that due to the small tires the axles are very close to the ground so even if you raise the bucket only a foot off the ground it is above the centerline on the axles thereby raising the center of gravity of the tractor by a large amount.
When I decided on the 2305 instead of the 2520 I simply assumed that a lower tractor was more stable but after using it I'm surprised at the number of times I lift a wheel just motoring around the yard, my 4410 and 955 seem a lot more stable.
 
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Larger tires both front and rear. I do have a ballast bow and it helps but the real problem is that due to the small tires the axles are very close to the ground so even if you raise the bucket only a foot off the ground it is above the centerline on the axles thereby raising the center of gravity of the tractor by a large amount.
When I decided on the 2305 instead of the 2520 I simply assumed that a lower tractor was more stable but after using it I'm surprised at the number of times I lift a wheel just motoring around the yard, my 4410 and 955 seem a lot more stable.
 
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You would have to find tires where the diameter ratio's between the front and rear were the same as the ratio between the original front and rear's otherwise drive train load up would occur in 4wd and could possibly break a drivline component. Also consider that with larger tires your effective overall gear ratio becomes less effective and lugging power is lost.
 
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You would have to find tires where the diameter ratio's between the front and rear were the same as the ratio between the original front and rear's otherwise drive train load up would occur in 4wd and could possibly break a drivline component. Also consider that with larger tires your effective overall gear ratio becomes less effective and lugging power is lost.
 
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It's basically impossible, the rear tires would hit the fenders and the fronts would rub when you turned. And as mentioned before the gear ratios would be off. This tractor is way light on the back. I started with 650lbs of 3ph ballast, I now have added loaded tires and 50lb wheel weights. This with the I match combines for about 1000 lbs added weight and this is not overkill. It now feels safe driving around with a full bucket.
 
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It's basically impossible, the rear tires would hit the fenders and the fronts would rub when you turned. And as mentioned before the gear ratios would be off. This tractor is way light on the back. I started with 650lbs of 3ph ballast, I now have added loaded tires and 50lb wheel weights. This with the I match combines for about 1000 lbs added weight and this is not overkill. It now feels safe driving around with a full bucket.
 
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If you are getting the rear wheels to lift while moving slowly around the yard (guess I interpret 'motoring' as moving fast) then you need some weight in that ballast box. Just the box by itself won't do /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I don't think the center of gravity is causing the problem, if the FEL bucket is just above the axle. If the rear wheel raises, being ready to immediately drop the FEL to the ground is a good plan. Weight counter balancing the load is the answer.

That FEL must pick up a pretty good load. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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If you are getting the rear wheels to lift while moving slowly around the yard (guess I interpret 'motoring' as moving fast) then you need some weight in that ballast box. Just the box by itself won't do /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I don't think the center of gravity is causing the problem, if the FEL bucket is just above the axle. If the rear wheel raises, being ready to immediately drop the FEL to the ground is a good plan. Weight counter balancing the load is the answer.

That FEL must pick up a pretty good load. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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lifting a tire is a ballast issue and has nothing to do with tire size. larger tires would actually raise the center of gravity of the entire machine. as far as trying it I wouldnt mind if it were practical on the hope it would improve the ride - thus my interest in the upcoming 2320 which is basically a 2210/2305 with larger tires and a few extras- even though the 2210/2305 have extra room in the pants for larger rears consider that larger fronts might rub someplace during a turn like the mower deck.
 
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lifting a tire is a ballast issue and has nothing to do with tire size. larger tires would actually raise the center of gravity of the entire machine. as far as trying it I wouldnt mind if it were practical on the hope it would improve the ride - thus my interest in the upcoming 2320 which is basically a 2210/2305 with larger tires and a few extras- even though the 2210/2305 have extra room in the pants for larger rears consider that larger fronts might rub someplace during a turn like the mower deck.
 

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