Lawn dethatcher

[doneill127]

Curious if anyone has tried on of these. Was thinking about it for lawn dethatching and prepping for overseeding. Maybe drag harrow would be better, but at $140 it got my attention.

Amazon.com : VEVOR Landscape Rake, 60 Inch Wide Tractor Rake, 3-Point Tow Behind Rake with 25.6 Inch Spring Tines, Black Pine Straw Needle Rake Dethatcher, Garden Driveway Rake for ATV UTV and Utility Tractors : Patio, Lawn & Garden

Amazon.com : VEVOR Landscape Rake, 60 Inch Wide Tractor Rake, 3-Point Tow Behind Rake with 25.6 Inch Spring Tines, Black Pine Straw Needle Rake Dethatcher, Garden Driveway Rake for ATV UTV and Utility Tractors : Patio, Lawn & Garden

www.amazon.com

 

[Midniteoyl]

$135 w/ $10 off coupon is what shows on my screen.. Probably worth it just to try.

edit: ordered one to test. Someone in the questions section said they had to modify theirs to actually fit their 3pt. We'll see.

 

[Wyobuckaroo]

edit: ordered one to test. Someone in the questions section said they had to modify theirs to actually fit their 3pt. We'll see..
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Had to modify it to fit there 3POINT.... ??
Or to fit there latest and greatest model of the day quick hitch ..... ?? I would be curious about that...

Also looking forward to a report of how it functions..

 

[the old grind]

OP, thanks for the link! I want one for de-thatching and think it'd be the cat's meow for gathering pine straw. (182 whites in 3 'groves')

 

[Midniteoyl]

edit: ordered one to test. Someone in the questions section said they had to modify theirs to actually fit their 3pt. We'll see..
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Had to modify it to fit there 3POINT.... ??
Or to fit there latest and greatest model of the day quick hitch ..... ?? I would be curious about that...

Also looking forward to a report of how it functions..

Dunno. Just said he had a Cat 1 and needed to modify it to work right with his arms.

 

[Have tractor did travel]

EverythingAttachments (EA) unit weighs 94 lbs (about 10% over 2X this one), and costs $600. EA sells replacement tines that are .320 of an inch. Amazon's vendor sells no parts, their tines are .314 so I'd guess that when replacement tines are needed, EA would, or could be made with a grinder, to fit. Amazon's vendor tines are all same length - encouraging debris to fall out at the edges. EA unit has 2 outer tines, each shorter than the other, and both shorter than most of the tines, giving that configuration a scoop action to hold debris into the tines. I'd give this one a chance 'cause the price is right.

 

[doneill127]

No doubt the EA rake is a high quality attachment. If I was going to use it couple times a year every year no question I’d go with theirs.
I have a large area of dead matted lawn from large puddles. Got 19” of rain in NE CT in July. Was looking for an easy way to rake it and scratch the soil. Was actually looking at the small Brinley towable dethatchers when I came across this. It’s only a few bucks more.

 

[Vigo327]

I actually have one of the small Brinly pieces that I pull behind riding mowers. It doesn't do as good a job dethatching for my purposes as i thought it would do (it is still fairly useful for raking looser materials up/out), BUT that is mainly because the spring tines are too flexible. The ones on these 3 pt ones here are about 8mm thick! I suspect these would do a much better job, although they are so much longer (more leverage on their 'spring') it's hard to say for sure that they are that much stiffer. Glad someone is ordering to find out and let us know!

 

[CalG]

curious

Since I've quit bagging the grass on the front lawn by the gardens, The lawn quality has greatly improved. Way less weed patches. Perhaps the area was "thatch deficient". Any way, win win for a good looking green lawn. The Mrs. likes it!

 

[the old grind]

I've never bagged when mowing and consider doing so a 'harvest' that depletes the soil over time. btw, saving beer bottle/can dregs and applying thru' a hose-end sprayer is an organic way to speed decomposition vs mechanical thatching. Just puttin' it out there.

 

[Bearsixty7]

The different pictures at the bottom make it look like an odd 3pt implement. In one it appears they have it on a 3pt trailer mover. It doesn't look to be actually attached to any of the tractors, just photo shopped in behind them.
How could it work with an ATV as well? I don't think it actually has a true 3pt connection. I hope it works for you, but I would be very leery of it.

 

[Midniteoyl]

The different pictures at the bottom make it look like an odd 3pt implement. In one it appears they have it on a 3pt trailer mover. It doesn't look to be actually attached to any of the tractors, just photo shopped in behind them.
How could it work with an ATV as well? I don't think it actually has a true 3pt connection. I hope it works for you, but I would be very leery of it.

We'll find out in the next day or two

 

[Midniteoyl]

Alright. Sorry for the delay. I received this a week ago, but only now had a chance to put it together.

The thing is very light duty. Like Craftsman mower type duty, as you can see in the pics. For the cost and intended application, I guess it could be made to do, but don't expect it to last very long.

The angle iron is 2" x 2" x 3/16" and the hardware supplied is metric 4.8.

The link holes are suppose to be 5/8", but were actually 15mm so needed to be reamed out with a proper 5/8" drill. Also, the bottom holes are not extended enough to fit my lift arms. I guess these are the 'modifications' talked about on Amazon.

A QH will not work due to the top link being so high. Even trying to use the brace instead, things just don't line up.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Oh ya, there's also no tabs/stops to hold the tines. Relying on the friction of severely tightening low grade bolts to hold them straight. The tines themselves aren't actually that bad though.

 

[Vigo327]

Figures a good implement at that price is a little too good to be true. If the tines themselves are good then i guess that's what you're paying for anyway, the rest of the bracketry on there barely adds up to $20.

When I saw those pics of the brackets having the holes too close AND too small, i started to wonder if maybe it fits a Cat-0 and maybe the ad said that all along and we didn't notice. Well, went and checked and it does say Cat1, just not in the title. So no excuse!

Putting the top link much higher than normal would make it not parallel with the lift arms which would pull the top of the implement forward. That would operate the tines at a slightly different angle, but it would also make it tilt forward MORE the more you lifted it. In terms of suspension on cars (i teach auto) it's like 'camber gain'. I wonder if that's an intentional thing to make the end of the tines sort of pull away and release the pile better than if they went straight up? Or maybe im overthinking it and giving them too much credit.

Really light rake implements like this I often picture putting them on a 3pt 'hi lift'/scissor lift thing. It would let you lift it several more feet and add a few feet of reach, maybe actually back up to an existing pile and grab it from the backside and pull it, or reach over some brush a few feet in and drag it out after you break/cut the base. I cut a bunch of brush recently and the hardest part was finding a way to grab it either by hand or with the machines that would pull it out without breaking it into more pieces. Seems like you could just stab this down on whatever bushy thorny crap you just cut and pull it out for the burn pile. Would also add a little downpressure from the extra weight of the hi lift when it was down. Anyway, it's a theory and I dont have either part to test it with yet. I did use my little riding mower dethatcher as a rake after knocking down all that brush with FEL and skid steer buckets, and it sifted up the little broken sticks and drug out the lumps and bumps of loose dirt piles caused by all the machine maneuvering.

Thanks for the real info/review! Now I know what to expect if I order one.

 

[Midniteoyl]

Figures a good implement at that price is a little too good to be true. If the tines themselves are good then i guess that's what you're paying for anyway, the rest of the bracketry on there barely adds up to $20.

When I saw those pics of the brackets having the holes too close AND too small, i started to wonder if maybe it fits a Cat-0 and maybe the ad said that all along and we didn't notice. Well, went and checked and it does say Cat1, just not in the title. So no excuse!

Putting the top link much higher than normal would make it not parallel with the lift arms which would pull the top of the implement forward. That would operate the tines at a slightly different angle, but it would also make it tilt forward MORE the more you lifted it. In terms of suspension on cars (i teach auto) it's like 'camber gain'. I wonder if that's an intentional thing to make the end of the tines sort of pull away and release the pile better than if they went straight up? Or maybe im overthinking it and giving them too much credit.

Really light rake implements like this I often picture putting them on a 3pt 'hi lift'/scissor lift thing. It would let you lift it several more feet and add a few feet of reach, maybe actually back up to an existing pile and grab it from the backside and pull it, or reach over some brush a few feet in and drag it out after you break/cut the base. I cut a bunch of brush recently and the hardest part was finding a way to grab it either by hand or with the machines that would pull it out without breaking it into more pieces. Seems like you could just stab this down on whatever bushy thorny crap you just cut and pull it out for the burn pile. Would also add a little downpressure from the extra weight of the hi lift when it was down. Anyway, it's a theory and I dont have either part to test it with yet. I did use my little riding mower dethatcher as a rake after knocking down all that brush with FEL and skid steer buckets, and it sifted up the little broken sticks and drug out the lumps and bumps of loose dirt piles caused by all the machine maneuvering.

Thanks for the real info/review! Now I know what to expect if I order one.

Definitely looks to made more for the Cat 0/light duty Cat 1 w/ the holes being 5/8, but the lowers being 25" instead of 20" for Cat 0. Dunno whats up with the long upper. Maybe welding some angle to extend the lowers about 6" would allow some better angle on the tines, though I wouldn't want too much.


It looks like it was more meant to be used with a ATV 3ph adapter: Hitch Receiver Adapter for Cat 0 and 1, 3 Point Hitch

 

[Midniteoyl]

It's definitely cheaper than the Field Tuff version this seems to copy: Amazon.com : Field Tuff FTF-60PSR3PT Pine Straw Rake, 3 Pt : Patio, Lawn & Garden

 

[Vigo327]

Yeah, i also noticed those similarities. I recently ordered the ~$150 Guide Gear ATV landscape rake and it's in transit from MN to TX. I'd probably like having a larger dethatcher than my mower-sized one, but I figured if i was gonna spend the $150 on something i didn't REALLY need, it should at least not just be a bigger version of something i already have!

Amazon.com: Guide Gear ATV UTV Landscape Rake, 60" : Patio, Lawn & Garden

I'll report back on it as it seems like there's some overlap of what you can do with these things and the price is similar. Both need a little extra work to hang on the tractors, but also seems like both could be good value if you are willing to do that little bit of work.