limestone flat tires please help

[bigpinwheel]

I just had a close friend add some crushed limestone to my drive a few weeks ago. He added about 40 tons to the drive over about 1000 feet including hill. its normal enough looking stone. EDIT he said he used 304s

In the past ten days I have ruined three tires driving on my drive. One old tire and two brand new Goodyear Fortera.
Any advice for me? Should I add fines or more stone? or switch tires or both?

The tires have been on my wife's Honda ridgeline and she's not happy. Help me out how would you proceed this is getting expensive.

 

[thatguy]

How were the tires 'ruined'? What is happening to them?

Brian

 

[bigpinwheel]

sorry if it wasn't clear two of the tires still had a piece of stone in them, right through the gap in the tread, one of them was cut in the same spot presumable from a sharp piece of stone.

Talked to my buddy some more said he put 304 down the first time. I think I might have him coat it with 57s

 

[farmer2009]

Step up in ply. A passenger tire is a 4- ply tire. Move to at least a 6. I run 10 ply on my truck and don't have rocks go through them and 6 on the wife's SUV no problem there either. You give up a little ride quality but pick up a lot in durability.

 

[thatguy]

wow, that must be some really sharp gravel..

Was this stone made for 'driveway' use? or something they had laying around?

I cant imagine someplace selling stone for a driveway that would cause that damage.

b

 

[MossRoad]

Here's a chart on limestone sizes (although its very hard to read. Highlight the text to read it better).
Albrecht Trucking-Limestone
It says 304 is egg sized to dust.

 

[Ken45101]

It sounds like you may have gotten some extra sharp stone in there. I don't think 57s would be an answer, that's very similar to the stone in the 304s. You might put down some crusher run as a top dressing.

Besides, 57s will move around a lot until they get compacted.


That's another possibility: was the 304 compacted well? Perhaps having it compacted would remove the problem?

 

[oosik]

I had problems with tires going flat on a trailer I rented from U-Haul. Rented a U-Haul tandem axle trailer when we drove out of Alaska in '82. Had two flats because the tread on the tires would not throw/expel the trapped gravel. Both flats were due to very smooth, blunt rocks trapped in the tread valleys and finally driven on thru the carcass. U-Haul paid dearly to have those two flats repaired on the Alcan Hwy.

 

[RDrancher]

It sounds like you may have gotten some extra sharp stone in there. I don't think 57s would be an answer, that's very similar to the stone in the 304s. You might put down some crusher run as a top dressing.

Besides, 57s will move around a lot until they get compacted.


That's another possibility: was the 304 compacted well? Perhaps having it compacted would remove the problem?

I think that Ken's got it right. I would spread a real thin layer of crusher run over the top, backdrag it gently to mix a bit of the 304's into it and then compact with a vibratory roller. Pure stone without fines (as a binder) doesn't compact very well.

 

[EMB5530]

Are you sure its limestone? I have only seen this problem w/ crushed granite.
Like a few have said already though I would compact the heck out of it, and also drive very slowly with your vehicles.

Sorry to hear of your problem hopefully you resolve it. What a PITA