Finally got around to putting a little orange paint on the 3-pt sprayer platform. I made the boom mount quick detachable so I could just use the 3-pt hitch platform as a carryall if needed. Swapped the nylon 3/8" pump outlet elbow for a 1/2" and added a couple of standard brass hose couplers to the pump outlet line, spray wand hose and new 1/2" spray boom hose for quick change convenience. Don't figure I'll be using both boom and wand simutaneously. Low tech, works great, just the way I like it!
Liquid or granular residential lawn care?
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Finally got around to putting a little orange paint on the 3-pt sprayer platform. I made the boom mount quick detachable so I could just use the 3-pt hitch platform as a carryall if needed. Swapped the nylon 3/8" pump outlet elbow for a 1/2" and added a couple of standard brass hose couplers to the pump outlet line, spray wand hose and new 1/2" spray boom hose for quick change convenience. Don't figure I'll be using both boom and wand simutaneously. Low tech, works great, just the way I like it!
Thanks all for the earlier help. My spray rig is properly calibrated working perfectly and, after a couple years neglect, I was very pleased with the results of my 1st effort on the broadleaf weeds. However, I noticed a small handful of new broadleafs and a number of clover patches once again making their presence known in the past week or so. Since the weather was cooperating, I decided to put down a second application of weed 'n feed this weekend.
This time, I used a 50/50 mix of the Amine 400 2,4-D and Trimec Weedkiller hoping to have better long-term results on the clover. Against my better judgement (and the advice of another poster to the thread, I know), I bot the Gordon's Lawn and Pasture 20-0-0 Liquid Fert from TSC primarily because I couldn't find any alternatives locally. None of the bulk fert sources in my area deal with liquid N, only granular. Need to find an economical online source for quality liquid fert or all-in-one Weed 'n Feed before the fall application. Suggestions appreciated...
Re: the diverter 'Y'... I find I tend to do all the boom spraying 1st, and then go back and spot with the wand. Just figured since I would have to stop and get off the tractor to switch it anyways, I wasn't losing much time to screw/unscrew the hose couplers. Plus, with this setup, I can just hook the water supply hose to either the boom or gun supply hose and flush away when I'm done.
This time, I used a 50/50 mix of the Amine 400 2,4-D and Trimec Weedkiller hoping to have better long-term results on the clover. Against my better judgement (and the advice of another poster to the thread, I know), I bot the Gordon's Lawn and Pasture 20-0-0 Liquid Fert from TSC primarily because I couldn't find any alternatives locally. None of the bulk fert sources in my area deal with liquid N, only granular. Need to find an economical online source for quality liquid fert or all-in-one Weed 'n Feed before the fall application. Suggestions appreciated...
Re: the diverter 'Y'... I find I tend to do all the boom spraying 1st, and then go back and spot with the wand. Just figured since I would have to stop and get off the tractor to switch it anyways, I wasn't losing much time to screw/unscrew the hose couplers. Plus, with this setup, I can just hook the water supply hose to either the boom or gun supply hose and flush away when I'm done.
pilonidal
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I have pretty much the same set up sprayer wise, cept I have the 25 gallon fimco with yellow teejets. I am not using near as much 2-4-d and am very pleased with the results. I used trimec last year and it worked great, this year I saw the same 2.5 gallon jug of 2-4-d from TSC and thought it was a great price so I grabbed it. I also did the drive way test, lol.
I am only using 6-7 oz of 2-4-d per 25 gallons. That's what I figured at looking at the residential care chart on the jug. It takes me 75 gallons of mixture which adds up to about 2.25-2.5 cups of 2-4-d used per application for the entire yard. No GPS for ground speed but my drive test helped estimate my speed to get everything nice and "wet". That 2.5 gallon jug of 2-4-d will last me a long time at that application rate. I have sprayed twice this year the weeds shrivel up and die each time. Day after spraying the dandilion and other weed flower stalks look like pretzels and few days later the leaves start turning purple/brown and that's all she wrote.
I am only using 6-7 oz of 2-4-d per 25 gallons. That's what I figured at looking at the residential care chart on the jug. It takes me 75 gallons of mixture which adds up to about 2.25-2.5 cups of 2-4-d used per application for the entire yard. No GPS for ground speed but my drive test helped estimate my speed to get everything nice and "wet". That 2.5 gallon jug of 2-4-d will last me a long time at that application rate. I have sprayed twice this year the weeds shrivel up and die each time. Day after spraying the dandilion and other weed flower stalks look like pretzels and few days later the leaves start turning purple/brown and that's all she wrote.
It doesn't make it any easier that some chemical application rates are by 1000sqft vs. per acre, but something doesn't sound right. Assuming the standard calibration for 1000sqft, I wonder if you interpreted the mix as I did initially (I came up with ~7.5oz concentrate for each 30gal tank). But what matters is how much you put on an acre and, according to the label, proper application for the Gordon's 2,4-D is 2-4 pints (32-64oz.) per acre with a min. of 4gal water for cool season turf. I have calibrated to deliver (1) 30gal tank of solution in just over 1 acre and, for the sake of simplicity, have 'sectioned' off my 3-3.5 acres of lawn into (3) equal 'pieces'. Therefore, I mix each tank with sufficient concentrate to treat ~1 acre and fill with water. That's why I used 32oz per tank, which I believe actually delivers right on the lighter side of the application rate scale. As you say, you are using much less per 25gal tank, but how many acres do you spray with your 75gal of solution? If you are using a total of 18-21oz of concentrate, that by label would be appropriate for only 1/2 acre or so of cool season turf so, unless I'm not thinking clearly, 75gal solution on 1/2 acre doesn't sound right. Are you sure you didn't measure using warm season southern zone mix rate (50% less)? What am I missing?pilonidal said:
pilonidal
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It's 46.6% 24D on the jug. Looks the same as in your picture. Page 10 of the instructions...home lawns - it says 1 oz to 4 gals of water to treat 1000 sq ft and so on for smaller/larger applications.
States this mixture is for blue/rye/fescue....ornamental grasses. I am spraying close to 2 acres give or take. Fill up the 25 gal fimco 3x and move at a speed to wet everything, not dripping, just misted with some droplets The weeds die.
States this mixture is for blue/rye/fescue....ornamental grasses. I am spraying close to 2 acres give or take. Fill up the 25 gal fimco 3x and move at a speed to wet everything, not dripping, just misted with some droplets The weeds die.
goodoleboy
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Be careful with the spray products. I Know a guy that got some diluted 2,4-d in his eye. I dont know if thats the culprit but soon after started having vision problems.Blurry on occasion it been 2 years and he still has problems..
2,4d in its concentrate liquid form has a pontential to cause problems for up to 90 days after being spilled. Its a very dangerous chemical but I still use with extreme caution.I dont let my son or wife get near the grass for about after application. Some chemicals 2,4-d maybe one, but it never leaves your body.
Be careful it is dangerous stuff.
2,4d in its concentrate liquid form has a pontential to cause problems for up to 90 days after being spilled. Its a very dangerous chemical but I still use with extreme caution.I dont let my son or wife get near the grass for about after application. Some chemicals 2,4-d maybe one, but it never leaves your body.
Be careful it is dangerous stuff.
Thanks for that clarification, I think you may have interpreted the instructions same as I did before Panache explained (see posts #28 and 29). As I think I understand it now, the key is to deliver 1oz concentrate per 1000 sq ft. Since there are 43,560 sq ft in 1 acre and the requirement is to apply 1oz for each 1000 sq ft, the recommended application works out to 43,560/1000 = 43.56oz concentrate per acre. It doesn't matter how much water you use for your end solution, so long as it is a minimum of 4gal spray solution for each 1 acre. It also doesn't matter which tip size or ground speed you use either, so long as you evenly distribute that 43.56oz of concentrate and min. 4gal water over the entire acre. Early in the foldout label on my 2.5gal container (right side, pg. 2, 4 or 6 maybe), it also shows the rate per acre for Turf at 32-64oz. and I would note the rate of 1oz per 1000 sq sf or 43.56oz per acre falls near the middle of that range. So, it sounds like you are getting good results using only ~10oz per acre - about 1/3 of what I'm using and less than 1/4 the recommended application rate. Sorry for talking aloud here but, being new to this DIY liquid lawn care program, it helps me learn and understand. Thanks again for the comments, based on this info maybe I'll lighten up my 2,4-D mix some.pilonidal said:
goodoleboy - thanks for the reminder! I try to treat these chemicals with plenty of due respect, and I'm generally very careful when it comes to my eyes. I did wear the tight-fitting protective goggles from my LASIK surgery when handling and spraying!
