Loader Snowplow

[kennyd]

ok i dont mean to sound dense but how do i add that to my tractor? i only have 4 lines on my tractor loader up and down and curl. Mabey i am just confused to where the 3rd function would connect. I am starting to get what your saying, it goes inline and on my curl remote i put a momentary on switch to power say a selonid valve?

Do a search in the hydraulics forum for the term "diverter"

 

[SSdoxie]

ok i dont mean to sound dense but how do i add that to my tractor? i only have 4 lines on my tractor loader up and down and curl. Mabey i am just confused to where the 3rd function would connect. I am starting to get what your saying, it goes inline and on my curl remote i put a momentary on switch to power say a selonid valve?

You're on the right track. The solenoid valve will have 6 hose ports. 2 will connect to the normal curl cirucit of the laoder valve, 2 for staight thru (open) will connect to the curl cylinder, the other 2 will connect 1 line to each of the single action cylinders on the plow. When hold down the button move your curl to lever to angle the blade.

 

[chopped]

hope this link helps. either way its a good site to look over and gt ideas etc.
Surplus Center

 

[nwngunner]

You're on the right track. The solenoid valve will have 6 hose ports. 2 will connect to the normal curl cirucit of the laoder valve, 2 for staight thru (open) will connect to the curl cylinder, the other 2 will connect 1 line to each of the single action cylinders on the plow. When hold down the button move your curl to lever to angle the blade.

i already have one solenoid valve, can i just get another one and make my own diverter? I can place a momentary on switch on my remote's controls to power the solenoids? I have to check to see if the valve i have already is a 2 or 3 port.

 

[dstig1]

Now I'm the one not following you... Most loaders I am familiar with have a joystick valve that has up-down and L-R movements to control the bucket raise/lower and curl/dump. Is yours different? Perhaps you can post a few pictures of your setup so we can see what you are talking about better.

The attachment shows the use of a diverter valve, from Fasse - the guys I bought mine from.

 

[nwngunner]

I cant find my digital camera i will take some with my phone. No i have two levers next to my seat, one controls my up and down on my main rams, The other controls my curls, like i said my system is alot older then most of these forums, i will have to get some picts in the am.

I was thinking if i got my self one of those multifunction controls like you got, then again i cant i dont have live hydraulics.

 

[DavidVT]

"1650 Oliver, my other is an internaional/farmall 806."

I forgot what you are working with. I had to go back an re-read your posts.

Try to post photos of your controls. There are some real talented folks here who can likely help you once they understand what you are dealing with.

As a thought, does that Oliver have a place on the engine where you could mount the truck's old plow pump?

Another thought in the pto pump idea is the used market. I lot of folks convert pto pump driven backhoes to direct connects. There must be a pile of those pumps somewhere... ?

Good luck!

 

[nwngunner]

i could have how ever the pulley is screwed up on the pump. How ever i could put a new one on, its always an option.

 

[JimP]

Another option might a used electric truck pump setup. It is easy to mount, only needs 12 v input and would give lift or angle as needed. They are expensive new but you can sometimes find them reasonably on CL used.

 

[nwngunner]

This photo shows the controls for my remotes.

The controls in the back control the pto and the three point lift.

The next two photos show the remotes.

 

[dstig1]

Sorry man, but I have no clue what I am looking at...

 

[nwngunner]

in the first picture the inside lever controls my lift the out side lever controls my curls. The back picts are where the feed and return lines attach for the loader.

 

[nwngunner]

so as you guys can see my valve body is in the rear end of the tractor off of the main pump. I dont have the normal multicontrol stick of the new style loaders. I am thinking if i wire up some selonoid valves i can still do it off of the internal pumps, I would have to do it on the curls.

 

[DP Property]

Grsthegreat,

Sir, your set-up is the one I'm most looking forward to see working this winter! Lots of photos and video are in order! :licking:

RockGod you need a Horst 4000 loader blade for your machine when I get my 3000 blade in I will do some videos for you.

 

[dstig1]

NW I wish I could help but I just don't know diddly about your unit.

With that said, a diverter is what you are describing. You "divert" the bucket curl/dump to another function (usually a grapple open/close) temporarily with an electrical solenoid that diverts the hydraulic flow from the curl dump to your auxiliary circuit. It seems like it would work with what I THINK I am looking at, but I just am not that experienced to figure it out by a couple pics over the internet. Sorry man

 

[Don87]

I don't know if this will help you at all.

I had an old Allis Chalmers garden tractor, that I put hydraulics on. I used a 60's style GM power steering pump(stretched the spring inside to increase the pressure), connected the lines to an old valve, and cylinder from an old Gilson garden tractor. It worked perfectly.

 

[bunchgrass]

Hey nwngunner,

I added a 3rd remote to a setup similar to yours (I think). Purchased from "Add-a Valve". I mounted the valve bodies (I think they're just an electromagnetic switch) up on the cross bar of my loader frame (sort of where my hydraulic lines already were). I put the valves "inline" with my curl function (ie - tapped into those lines for hydraulics) so hydraulic fluid goes thru the valve to my curl cylinders UNLESS I hold down the button on my curl function lever while curling - then the 3rd function gets the hydraulic flow instead. Works pretty good - the weakest part of the whole setup is the button/handle that came with it to mount on my curl lever.

Let me know if you want me to post a pic although I'm pretty embarrassed by my work when I see the top quality craftsmanship of many who post here.

 

[grsthegreat]

Hey nwngunner,

I added a 3rd remote to a setup similar to yours (I think). Purchased from "Add-a Valve". I mounted the valve bodies (I think they're just an electromagnetic switch) up on the cross bar of my loader frame (sort of where my hydraulic lines already were). I put the valves "inline" with my curl function (ie - tapped into those lines for hydraulics) so hydraulic fluid goes thru the valve to my curl cylinders UNLESS I hold down the button on my curl function lever while curling - then the 3rd function gets the hydraulic flow instead. Works pretty good - the weakest part of the whole setup is the button/handle that came with it to mount on my curl lever.

Let me know if you want me to post a pic although I'm pretty embarrassed by my work when I see the top quality craftsmanship of many who post here.

sure..lets see it. someday i may add a 3rd function also. like to see options

 

[nwngunner]

Hey nwngunner,

I added a 3rd remote to a setup similar to yours (I think). Purchased from "Add-a Valve". I mounted the valve bodies (I think they're just an electromagnetic switch) up on the cross bar of my loader frame (sort of where my hydraulic lines already were). I put the valves "inline" with my curl function (ie - tapped into those lines for hydraulics) so hydraulic fluid goes thru the valve to my curl cylinders UNLESS I hold down the button on my curl function lever while curling - then the 3rd function gets the hydraulic flow instead. Works pretty good - the weakest part of the whole setup is the button/handle that came with it to mount on my curl lever.

Let me know if you want me to post a pic although I'm pretty embarrassed by my work when I see the top quality craftsmanship of many who post here.

Where did you find those valves, can you provide some links please.

 

[bunchgrass]

Where did you find those valves, can you provide some links please.

Sorry - I sort of forgot about this topic. Here's the link to the company (V and M multiplier valve) I got my setup from and I'll see if I can get a couple of pics uploaded here.

V&M Inc.