log splitter off FEL pump

[DLinMI]

Thanks to EVERYONE for your input. So for simplicity sake if I'm absorbing all this info correctly, the easiest would be the quick couplers attached to the curl line. Which would disable the curl while the splitter was attached but I should still be able to raise and lower the bucket to move the tractor. As far as the return to tank line, I guess I need to determine what loader spool I have. If the port on top of my spool that I pointed out that is not in use is in fact a tank return I could plumb the return line with a quick coupler back in there? Correct . No extra valves or anything before the splitter? Thanks again everyone. If PTSG is correct on my output of 16GPM at 2500 rpms, is this going to be worth it, I like to run the tractor around 1000 rpms, or does the front pump rotate at a different rpm than the engine tach?

 

[LouNY]

Most front pump applications on tractors ran at engine speed.
As far as the return where does your loader valve return to,
a tee in there would be the best.

 

[ptsg]

Thanks to EVERYONE for your input. So for simplicity sake if I'm absorbing all this info correctly, the easiest would be the quick couplers attached to the curl line. Which would disable the curl while the splitter was attached but I should still be able to raise and lower the bucket to move the tractor. As far as the return to tank line, I guess I need to determine what loader spool I have. If the port on top of my spool that I pointed out that is not in use is in fact a tank return I could plumb the return line with a quick coupler back in there? Correct . No extra valves or anything before the splitter? Thanks again everyone. If PTSG is correct on my output of 16GPM at 2500 rpms, is this going to be worth it, I like to run the tractor around 1000 rpms, or does the front pump rotate at a different rpm than the engine tach?

While the pump will put out 16 GPM at 2500 RPMs, you don't actually need to run at 2500 RPMs.

You can play with the RPMs till you find a balance between noise and speed that you like. At 1000 RPMs it would put out about 8 GPM, which might still be more than your current setup.

 

[WranglerX]

Are you really considering using the curl valve to control log splitter ram.... If so it puts you anywhere from 6 to 10 feet away from "work zone" every time you want to move ram (if ram mounted on 3PH).... The trip is going to get tiresome after a while.... Maybe I am missing something here!

Dale

 

[LouNY]

I think most are assuming that he has a valve on the log splitter,
when ready to split if using the curl function after connecting the hoses and starting the tractor operate the curl valve in the required direction and bungee cord it in place,
go to the splitter and begin splitting using the splitters valve(s)
As long as the splitter valve is an open center valve it will work fine.
When we used our Ford 8000 on a 3 point splitter we plugged into the rear remotes and ran the splitter using its valves and used a bungee to hold the tractors remote in position,
it is a common method of getting hydraulic power to an implement or attachment which has its own valving.

 

[DLinMI]

Most front pump applications on tractors ran at engine speed.
As far as the return where does your loader valve return to,
a tee in there would be the best.

The loader "valve" or spool sits literally on top of the reservoir which is part of the frame.

 

[DLinMI]

While the pump will put out 16 GPM at 2500 RPMs, you don't actually need to run at 2500 RPMs.

You can play with the RPMs till you find a balance between noise and speed that you like. At 1000 RPMs it would put out about 8 GPM, which might still be more than your current setup.

I must be missing something, the loader will raise from ground to full up in 4-5 seconds, currently the splitter takes 20-30 seconds or more to do a full stroke in one direction. I assumed the loader pump would provide a big upgrade in performance?

 

[DLinMI]

Most front pump applications on tractors ran at engine speed.
As far as the return where does your loader valve return to,
a tee in there would be the best.

That's why I was hoping this plug was a tank return port. How can I determine if it is? I can't find any markings on the valve assembly to hint who the manufacturer is, short of unbolting it to examine the underside.

 

[LouNY]

Rig up a tee fitting were your tank fill/Breather is,
could even go high dollar and install a return line filter to help keep the hydraulic fluid clean.
I would expect that you should see considerable better cycle time on your spliter when run at the same rpm you use now.

 

[RickB]

I think most are assuming that he has a valve on the log splitter,
when ready to split if using the curl function after connecting the hoses and starting the tractor operate the curl valve in the required direction and bungee cord it in place,
go to the splitter and begin splitting using the splitters valve(s)
As long as the splitter valve is an open center valve it will work fine.
When we used our Ford 8000 on a 3 point splitter we plugged into the rear remotes and ran the splitter using its valves and used a bungee to hold the tractors remote in position,
it is a common method of getting hydraulic power to an implement or attachment which has its own valving.

Rig up a tee fitting were your tank fill/Breather is,
could even go high dollar and install a return line filter to help keep the hydraulic fluid clean.
I would expect that you should see considerable better cycle time on your spliter when run at the same rpm you use now.

Good info, I agree. The Op wanted inexpensive, this is it.