log splitter off FEL pump

   / log splitter off FEL pump
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#41  
Rig up a tee fitting were your tank fill/Breather is,
could even go high dollar and install a return line filter to help keep the hydraulic fluid clean.
I would expect that you should see considerable better cycle time on your spliter when run at the same rpm you use now.
Great idea, thanks again
 
   / log splitter off FEL pump #42  
My first tractor/loader was a 404 IH, with some no-name aftermarket loader, and a Vickers vane pump driven off the front of the engine.
I built a 4" bore wood splitter, and when I wanted to split wood, I quick connected the splitter cylinder to the hoses for the tilt cylinder of the loader,,

I even used the tractor loader valve.

I had $99 total in the splitter (this was 1982) and I split 4 cords of wood per year,,

It worked great.
 
   / log splitter off FEL pump #43  
That's why I was hoping this plug was a tank return port. How can I determine if it is? I can't find any markings on the valve assembly to hint who the manufacturer is, short of unbolting it to examine the underside.View attachment 672314

Look at "tank", there will be two lines, one is suction from tank to pump, the other should go to valve as the "tank" return line....

I only see four lines at valve they should be for "curl" (2) and "lift" (2).... Any other lines we can not see graphic, how about under valve and back side of valve next to engine shroud... I am not seeing the power "P" input to valve from pump and not seeing the tank "T" line back to tank.... Why am I missing these...

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I really think this is what you are trying to accomplish is it not?....

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   / log splitter off FEL pump #44  
Rig up a tee fitting were your tank fill/Breather is,
could even go high dollar and install a return line filter to help keep the hydraulic fluid clean.
I would expect that you should see considerable better cycle time on your spliter when run at the same rpm you use now.

Really?.... There appears to already be a filter under valve...

Dale
 
   / log splitter off FEL pump #45  
Thanks to EVERYONE for your input. So for simplicity sake if I'm absorbing all this info correctly, the easiest would be the quick couplers attached to the curl line. Which would disable the curl while the splitter was attached but I should still be able to raise and lower the bucket to move the tractor. As far as the return to tank line, I guess I need to determine what loader spool I have. If the port on top of my spool that I pointed out that is not in use is in fact a tank return I could plumb the return line with a quick coupler back in there? Correct . No extra valves or anything before the splitter? Thanks again everyone. If PTSG is correct on my output of 16GPM at 2500 rpms, is this going to be worth it, I like to run the tractor around 1000 rpms, or does the front pump rotate at a different rpm than the engine tach?

I agree but you will have your curl valve in prior to your splitter. Meaning you will have to have that valve in the curl operation position in order for fluid to flow from your to your splitter. If the valve returns to center for some reason, you will have no flow to your splitter.

This is why so many have suggested the power beyond port. It will flow fluid without any valve control other than splitter control. However you mostly likely will need to have that return to tank when the splitter is not installed with a hose between the 2 splitter connection locations.
 
   / log splitter off FEL pump #46  
GFFf
I agree but you will have your curl valve in prior to your splitter. Meaning you will have to have that valve in the curl operation position in order for fluid to flow from your to your splitter. If the valve returns to center for some reason, you will have no flow to your splitter.
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Already stated about 10 times and easily accomplished with a $1.00 bungee cord or tarp strap.
 
   / log splitter off FEL pump #48  
And this is why about 10 times it been dismissed as a HALF A $$ way to do it....

Dale

It is NOT a half xxx anything.
It is a simple and inexpensive way to get a job done.
No since in pi**ing money away if not needed, especially for small jobs and trials.
 
   / log splitter off FEL pump #49  
Personally, I'd minimize monetary input until I knew the system would operate the splitter satisfactorily.
 
   / log splitter off FEL pump #50  
Personally, I'd minimize monetary input until I knew the system would operate the splitter satisfactorily.

My thoughts exactly.

Hydraulics can get expensive quite fast, specially in trial and error setups.
 

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