loggers are coming to clear the land behind us

[JB4310]

Perhaps not all hope has been extinguished and the future might possibly show a glimmer of hope? Walk the adjoining property, preferably during nighttime hours. Do your best in finding an endangered species on the land. An endangered type or species, such as a "BEETLE" would suffice. Then take your complaint to either or both of these organizations: (1) American Civil Liberties Union - ACLU; (2) People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals - PETA.

I tried that one myself , the planned development next to me is in an area of a seasonal run off, not a wetlands. Even though it's seasonal they told me there could be endangered species there.

One of them was "Fairy Shrimp" How the heck t do you find a Fairy Shrimp :laughing: Only hope now is they dig up an ancient Indian burial ground !

Oh yeah my brother almost got himself in trouble up in Vermont, He borders state land on 2 sides and the loggers were going way past the marked limits, not on his land, but taking ancient trees they weren't supposed to (according to my brother?) so he let loose a rifle shot to get their attention. He says they stopped doing what ever it was he didn't like.
He's lucky they didn't have him arrested, I guess they knew they were in the wrong themselves.

JB

 

[dodge man]

I've seen logging done in my area, and it often isn't pretty. Around here, they don't clear cut usually, the just top out the trees and take the lower part of the logs. It often leaves a heck of a mess behind. I would make sure you know where the boundary is. I've seen loggers get well over the boundary and they often don't seem to care.

As far as stopping them, you might just ask if they would not distrub the area near your property. It might not be a big deal to them and it doesn't hurt to ask.

 

[dmccarty]

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As far as stopping them, you might just ask if they would not distrub the area near your property. It might not be a big deal to them and it doesn't hurt to ask.

He can ask but if the trees are marked with paint they are going to get cut. If not paint is seen I would assume a clear cut.

I would make danged sure you mark your property line so they know where the line is and whose trees are whose. In NC if they cut your trees it is a crime and from what I have read the fines can be high.

If the trees are painted then you can already see which trees are going to be harvested.

Later,
Dan

 

[smstonypoint]

Econ 101 Pop Quiz (25 points)

Discuss the OP's situation in light of Coase's Theorem.

Steve

 

[MF1652]

To the OP, Yeah it's unfortunate they are going to log the adjoining property. But it's their property. Not yours. So long as they follow regulations in the process there is nothing you can do. It's arrogant to think you can have some form of legal recourse to stop them from simply harvesting THEIR timber on THEIR property.

That type of attitude is despicable. I have had abutting properties where people built their mcmansion next to my horse pasture and had the nerve to ask me to cut trees on my line so they can better enjoy my property and then ask me to not place my manure pile on a portion of my property near them. It's amazing to me how many people move into an area and then think they can dictate what their neighbors can and can't do.

If you want to have a say in what your neighbors do. Move to a condo complex and become the condo association president. You can live out the rest of you life living like a king and telling other people what color to paint their mailbox and shut them down when their taste in flowers clashes with yours.

 

[murphy1244]

Well, Since this is gonna happen. Lets look at the good part. You get to see the land rebuild itself,you get to see new growth.

 

[jonyyuma]

I've seen logging done in my area, and it often isn't pretty. Around here, they don't clear cut usually, the just top out the trees and take the lower part of the logs. It often leaves a heck of a mess behind. I would make sure you know where the boundary is. I've seen loggers get well over the boundary and they often don't seem to care.

As far as stopping them, you might just ask if they would not distrub the area near your property. It might not be a big deal to them and it doesn't hurt to ask.

The Same type mess here...You can see it from the aerial and satel. photos. The tops are just thrown around. If I was still burning wood, I could ask to trim them up? The ruts from the equipment will be ugly scars and washouts.

 

[tractchores]

Quite the debate! I think your best bet is to call the landowner and ask if they intend to leave any buffer, if not ask what it would take. As its their land and a legal use you don't have any legal rights to stop them, but might be able to strike some kind of deal where you buy a right away or standing timber or something. Personally having seen that sort of thing happen with development too much around me I bought a lot where my sight lines are either owned by me or are protected land via wetlands or town owned. Logging can make quite a mess, but if done right it'll also produce a forest with more undergrowth and a lot of animals thriving in that environment.

 

[Hollow]

Well as far as telling someone else what they can do on their own land, I have no sympathy for people like that. Been there, done that! But if its company owned land, they speak $. You can ether offer to buy the property from them, or you can pay the stumpage value of the timber and get them to sign a contract saying they will not cut it until whatever growth cycle they intended on using on the next stand of timber is over. A 40' buffer zone down a property line shouldn't cost that much (it won't be cheap though). I grew up around the industry and most companies will accommodate adjacent landowners as long as it doesn't cost them big $. As far as sediments washing onto your property, that is a big NO NO. If they tear the ground up and it washes onto your property and they don't fix it you can take them to court. Most States (if not all) have laws protecting land owners from that.

 

[Hollow]

In NC if they cut your trees it is a crime and from what I have read the fines can be high.

Most States it's 2 to 2 1/2 times the value of the stumpage.

If it's a thinning they will mark the trees to be cut, if its a clear cut they will only mark the perimeter.