Box Scraper Looking for Biggest Box Scraper on the market - Need Advice

[WVBartMan]

I'm looking to purchase the largest capacity box scraper with shanks/rippers I can find. Presently the leader in the pack seems to be the Woods/Gannon Model HD24496HXD with 34.3 cubic feet of dirt capacity. The key I'm finding in capacity is the width, depth and height of the box which significantly impacts the price as well. I have a 6-feet wide box scraper from my smaller tractor but I need something bigger for the bigger tractor and having a top and tilt kit on both tractors makes it nice with a box scraper. Any advice/suggestion would greatly be appreciated.

Link to the Woods/Gannon Box Scraper: HD24496HXD Landscape Equipment

 

[schmism]

largest pull behind box scraper i can find is 33yrd

http://www.machinerytrader.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=8697943

expect to need a 600-800 hp tractor to pull it.

 

[jenkinsph]

I'm looking to purchase the largest capacity box scraper with shanks/rippers I can find. Presently the leader in the pack seems to be the Woods/Gannon Model HD24496HXD with 34.3 cubic feet of dirt capacity. The key I'm finding in capacity is the width, depth and height of the box which significantly impacts the price as well. I have a 6-feet wide box scraper from my smaller tractor but I need something bigger for the bigger tractor and having a top and tilt kit on both tractors makes it nice with a box scraper. Any advice/suggestion would greatly be appreciated.

Link to the Woods/Gannon Box Scraper: HD24496HXD Landscape Equipment

I prefer the HB series with the hinged rearblade as it allows you to cut deeper more easily. If you read the text on it they do make a 96" model but it seems to have been left out of the chart. I have an 84" industrial box Frontier/Gannon that weighs 1260 lbs. and has a capacity of over 30 cu. ft. Well satisfied with it. Mine is a Frontier BB1284.

 

[gwdixon]

Mine is a Gearmore 4G4 88" that is a beast. Don't know the capacity.

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[McGeesEquip]

Here is a link to a Tufline TB40 Series 8 Ft. unit on our web site.

Tufline TB40 8 Ft Tractor Box Blade

 

[xring100]

Cammond and paladin /FFC both make some monsters as well. I want to say the 4x4 ffc 84" is like 1600lbs and also has optional replaceable side plates. FFC is really proud of their stuff you may go into shock when you see a price on the FFC. But probably the heaviest built on the market

Dave

 

[94BULLITT]

Cammond and paladin /FFC both make some monsters as well. I want to say the 4x4 ffc 84" is like 1600lbs and also has optional replaceable side plates. FFC is really proud of their stuff you may go into shock when you see a price on the FFC. But probably the heaviest built on the market

Dave

Those FFC box blades are a beast.

FFC 88" OD Model 440HD Box Blade | Box Scraper with Replaceable End Plates

 

[GreenWannabe]

I'm looking to purchase the largest capacity box scraper with shanks/rippers I can find. Presently the leader in the pack seems to be the Woods/Gannon Model HD24496HXD with 34.3 cubic feet of dirt capacity. The key I'm finding in capacity is the width, depth and height of the box which significantly impacts the price as well. I have a 6-feet wide box scraper from my smaller tractor but I need something bigger for the bigger tractor and having a top and tilt kit on both tractors makes it nice with a box scraper. Any advice/suggestion would greatly be appreciated.

Link to the Woods/Gannon Box Scraper: HD24496HXD Landscape Equipment

Woods/Gannon has some larger boxes yet on their Construction pages, the MDM series from 39 to 45 cu ft. You can find them on the bottom of this page: Construction Landscape Equipment.

 

[AndyMA]

I have used a 8' LandPride Box Blade for about 20 years. It's been great & was cost effective when I bought it.

Take a look at the HR35 & HRL35 Series Box Scrapers | Land Pride

Remember all of the Box Blades your looking at are over 1 yard capacity and will be heavy to pull when full and still filling. I can easily stop my 4WD (with front and rear differential locks) 75 HP New Holland TN75D with mine.

Andy

 

[TripleR]

I have used a 8' LandPride Box Blade for about 20 years. It's been great & was cost effective when I bought it.

Take a look at the HR35 & HRL35 Series Box Scrapers | Land Pride

Remember all of the Box Blades your looking at are over 1 yard capacity and will be heavy to pull when full and still filling. I can easily stop my 4WD (with front and rear differential locks) 75 HP New Holland TN75D with mine.

Andy

Same here, our HR3584 will anchor our M8540 with Ag tires and diff lock, it is as big as I would want to go on that size tractor.

 

[xring100]

Same here, our HR3584 will anchor our M8540 with Ag tires and diff lock, it is as big as I would want to go on that size tractor.

I'm guessing traction is the issue? I've been looking at Gannons a little concerned that landpride only rates the hrl at 65 HP. Is this only with the shanks down that you have issues? I also have an M8540

Dave

 

[MtnViewRanch]

An industrial 4x4 tractor that weighs 13,000lbs only uses an 84" Gannon. I doubt that any of our 10,000lb or less utility tractors can really make full use of anything much bigger.

 

[xring100]

An industrial 4x4 tractor that weighs 13,000lbs only uses an 84" Gannon. I doubt that any of our 10,000lb or less utility tractors can really make full use of anything much bigger.

Yeah they seem to be very popular on skip loaders. I can get a new Gannon 84" with replaceable side plates and another 100 - 200 lbs of steel about $600 cheaper than a landpride. It seems to me a lot of people have landprides on 80 plus hp tractors with no problems. Gannon says max operating capacity of 9500 lbs which my tractor is very close too being over with fel on

Dave

 

[TripleR]

I'm guessing traction is the issue? I've been looking at Gannons a little concerned that landpride only rates the hrl at 65 HP. Is this only with the shanks down that you have issues? I also have an M8540

Dave

You're right, traction and user experience. When used properly, the HR3584 works great, but like anything it takes some getting use to. If you use the rippers all the way down or try to take too big of a bite in clay soil, you will just wind up sitting there. We have a hydraulic top link and until you get use to the proper angle, you can easily come in with too much angle and let it take too big of s bite. We are in the learning curve, my only point is that getting the "biggest" available "may" not be the "best" for some tractors. Now it still may work well as I use the HR3584 on our L5740 HSTC, you just have to be judicious on how it's used. I don't have draft control on our 5740 as I didn't think I would need it, wish I had it now.

 

[Verticaltrx]

An industrial 4x4 tractor that weighs 13,000lbs only uses an 84" Gannon. I doubt that any of our 10,000lb or less utility tractors can really make full use of anything much bigger.

I was going to say just that. We have a 7' medium duty Gill/Gannon (just under a yard capacity) behind a M9540 it is plenty for that tractor. If you have a lot of dirt to move getting a 7' scraper with a little less capacity and going a little faster will get the job done quicker than struggling with one that is too big. Also remember, the Kubota's are pretty light weight for their size, those massive high-back 8' Gannons would stop it like and anchor IMO.

 

[jenkinsph]

I agree with MtnViewRanch and Verticaltrx, the 84" boxblade is all your tractor wants if rippers are used. If you need to move very much dirt a greater distance use a loader. Otherwise choosing a boxblade you can muscle around more easily makes more sense. I can get away with using my heavy boxblade because most of the time my scarifiers are up and I am utilizing the weight to hold a grade. While I can pull a full box of loose material (overflowing) ripping and pulling a full box in heavy clay soil would require about twice my machines weight. All in all a 7' boxblade is a respectable load on a 90 hp weighted tractor.

 

[gradea]

Best box blade, Seen your thread and thought I at least tell ya biggest isn't always best. I use 84" FFC 440 and it's the best for my 85hp Case MXT-570/turbo with 6 way hydraulic positioning. I had 75hp Case LXT 570 and the 440 fully loaded would create rear wheel spin but MXT with turbo will completely fill box with it coming out top without affecting forward or rear performance. FFC 440 are expensive but out last about anything on market. My 01' purchased with tractor needs cutting blades replaced after 12 years & 7600 hrs. Also if you get model with replaceable sides you can repair all the wear items but without enough HP & torque it's to big for lower HP tractors.

 

[xring100]

Best box blade, Seen your thread and thought I at least tell ya biggest isn't always best. I use 84" FFC 440 and it's the best for my 85hp Case MXT-570/turbo with 6 way hydraulic positioning. I had 75hp Case LXT 570 and the 440 fully loaded would create rear wheel spin but MXT with turbo will completely fill box with it coming out top without affecting forward or rear performance. FFC 440 are expensive but out last about anything on market. My 01' purchased with tractor needs cutting blades replaced after 12 years & 7600 hrs. Also if you get model with replaceable sides you can repair all the wear items but without enough HP & torque it's to big for lower HP tractors.

Welcome, to the Forum your right on the FFC I've been looking the 240 has a machine rating up to 20,000 lb operating weight and the 440 is like 30,000 lbs max operating weight. With that said i think when i finally pull the trigger i will just get the woods Gannon its about $600 cheaper and about 100-200 lbs lighter than the 240 FFC