Price Check Looking for current pricing for a ck30 hst

   / Looking for current pricing for a ck30 hst #11  
Just to put it out there.....
Sometimes dealers will sell a unit at or even below the cost of that unit. If a unit is coming due or if there happens to be a load almost ready to come in and the dealer wants to "fill the truck" sometimes deals are found, just depends alot on the dealership and the area they are located too.
This isn't something to bank on thou.
I have read alot of pricing statemnts on the board before some of which are so low the dealer was selling at below cost......

This is just a general statement...meant to cover basically all of the pricing on the board.

I wish they KIOTI would post list prices myself.
 
   / Looking for current pricing for a ck30 hst #12  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Just to put it out there.....
Sometimes dealers will sell a unit at or even below the cost of that unit. If a unit is coming due or if there happens to be a load almost ready to come in and the dealer wants to "fill the truck" sometimes deals are found, just depends alot on the dealership and the area they are located too.
This isn't something to bank on thou.
I have read alot of pricing statemnts on the board before some of which are so low the dealer was selling at below cost......

This is just a general statement...meant to cover basically all of the pricing on the board.

I wish they KIOTI would post list prices myself.)</font>

Exactly the reason showing list prices would be helpfull.
Gives the buyer more of an idea how the are doing on price.
The way its set up now its difficult for us buyers to tell..
 
   / Looking for current pricing for a ck30 hst #13  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The B3030 is probably the lightest weight of the 30hp tractors, it is probably also the smallest in size. The CK30 is near the other end of the scale in both size and weight. You really need to determine the types of jobs you intend to do to determine which is the better tractor for you in the long run. One will be, but the other won't be. They are simply too different. )</font>

Bob, I've been looking at 30hp tractors to do some grading, driveway work, stump removal in the Indiana Dunes area: sand, sand hils and slopes. The mix: LK3054XS TLB, CK30, Kubota 3030 and Kubota B7800. The Kiotis are almost 2x the weight of the Kubotas. What do u think would work best in this environment?
 
   / Looking for current pricing for a ck30 hst #14  
You are preaching to the choir....... /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
LOL
 
   / Looking for current pricing for a ck30 hst #15  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( You are preaching to the choir....... /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
LOL )</font>

I know..
But I still felt the need to say it !! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
   / Looking for current pricing for a ck30 hst #16  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I wish they KIOTI would post list prices myself. )</font>
I wrote an e-mail to CG at Kioti all about this topic but have never received an answer from him.
I added into the e-mail excerpts from TBN regarding different members thoughts on posting list prices. I will continue to fight for dealers, or at least Kioti to have list prices on their websites, as I feel it is important for the consumer to know a beginning point.
John
 
   / Looking for current pricing for a ck30 hst #17  
Matt,Call 270-524-0385 or Email glsweet@scrtc.com and tell him what you need and he will price you a Kioti tractor outfit.--Ken Sweet
 
   / Looking for current pricing for a ck30 hst #18  
<font color="orange"> ( Once again, Kioti showing list prices or allowing dealers to show list prices would help out new buyers..my opinion..)
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I've got to put my two cents worth in here as well. When you would like to see a list price, what would be included in this price? I know all the standard features that this tractor would have would be included, but does it include freight to where ever? Does it have to include any options (FEL, Backhoe, mid PTO, rear remotes, etc...) or are they to be listed separately? I think Deere is the only one that has something like this aren't they? To me, some people can misinterpret a list price. I live in Nova Scotia and where I bought my Kioti the dealer is not a big dealer so freight will dictate a substantial cost of the machine just from the fact that if he didn't have the particular model in stock, he would have to have it shipped LTL (less than load) which is quite a bit more expensive than if he could hire out a full load for the truck or if you weren't in a hurry, you could wait until he had enough orders to fill a truck to get the cheaper freight rate. Does Kioti, Kubota, Deere, etc.. help dealers with freight subsidies to ensure equal pricing throughout the countries? (i don't know) All I know is that my dealer made the comment that it is cheaper to get a full truck load of tractors than to get one or two at a time. Next, if the dealer had a certain model of tractor on the lot, but he ordered it in with a few options on it, someone comes in off the street and knows the list price without realizing there were any options on it and the dealers price is higher than the list price he seen on the website. Unless the dealer can do a good methodical explaination as to why it is higher then the customer is not likely going to have a good first impression. When I was pricing I first asked what the list price with the options I wanted was and stated that I was trying to sell, not trade, my other tractor first and when I did I was definately going to purchase another tractor (I hoped I could before the wifey changed her mind). Every dealer is different, one dealer may like to dicker where the next does not. If the dealer is not on the level he will either fall in line or fall to ruins in time. All of the dealers that I dealt with were good people to talk too, with the exception of one. I think list is misleading to a point if your not aware of what you are asking for. I think I've got two dollars worth instead of two cents worth or is it two tenths of a cent worth, I don't know, my heads hurtin, I'm going to bed, good night and sweet tractor dreams!

Steve
 
   / Looking for current pricing for a ck30 hst #19  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I think list is misleading to a point if your not aware of what you are asking for. )</font>

I'm not missleading anyone.
Why can't Kioti show list prices like many of the other MFG's do ?
Example I can go to the JD or Cub Cadet site and get their list prices.
Many Kubota dealers sites show their list prices.
(Options, attachment and implement prices are listed seperately.)
I'm sure if I looked I could likely find asking price or at least list prices for most Mfg.
There is no reason Kioti can't do the same...
 
   / Looking for current pricing for a ck30 hst #20  
AFter being a Kioti dealer for a little over a year (coming on board just after the big change in price adv. policy) I will say that list prices are meaningless. We started quoting near list, hoping to negotiate to a sale, instead we ran everone over to a very well established local dealer selling an alternative orange tractor. The problem was that because of sliding scale dealer discounts and volume bonus incentives, high volume dealers who avoid floor plan financing could retail tractors at prices that were near (sometimes below) the cost a small volume local dealer had to pay. This is fine if tractor sales are to become a mail order, web based business, but that creates a problem in maintianing a dealer network.

I would love to be able to advertise our prices, or better yet, sell on ebay. We are fortuneate to have very low overhead here in rural Arkansas and even though we are not a high volume dealer, we can compete. We do not have expensive freeway frontage, a huge inventory, big sales staff, parts people and such. we do have a truck and gooseneck and are fairly centrally located in the US so we could develope one heck of an internet sales business if we were not restricted.
On the other hand, if web based dealers put the local guy out of business, where will you go for service? (Of course we know that is not a big issue with Kiotis, but it could happen).

So Kioti took some steps to try to maintain some level of fairness in the playing field.

I suspect that this restrictive policy has hindered the ability to go head to head with some of the web based dealers selling other brands. I don't think some people realize what they can get for their dollar in a Kioti.
 

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