Looking for Hy-tran Replacement

[tkcomer]

I was at the Case-IH dealer looking for some Hy-tran/Hy-tran plus for a Case-IH 685 tractor. Dealer says that Case-IH no longer makes it. They only have Hy-tran Ultra, which is not compatible with my brakes. So they said. Told me I can only get it through the aftermarket. They have an aftermarket brand, but I wasn’t sure about it. I admit, I haven’t begun to look, but what is a good aftermarket brand?

 

[Highbeam]

I used the hytrans ultra in place of the required hy-trans in my 72 IH dozer. The jug of ultra tells you that it is the replacement for the old hytrans as I recall. Really, I can't even imagine why utf can't be used but I was worried about touble and since the regular HT is red, I didn't think the UTF would work. Well, the HT ultra is red too.

 

[Soundguy]

Dye addatives aside.. check a bottle of your favorite utf, and see if hytrans compatibility is mentioned. Both TSC and wallmart sell cheap utf.. There is some viscosity difference.. though it is mentione dont he bottle. I havn't had a problem in my fords with either flavor of UTF.

Soundguy

 

[art]

Huh! I sell it the same for that model tractor! Haven't heard of that one. I've been experimenting some with the synthetics but their is no comparable in petroleum base oils as it's been the best for years and the ultra just keeps them up there! Get the ultra!

 

[tkcomer]

I have some Case-IH Hy-Tran Ultra for another tractor. It doesn’t mention being a replacement for Hy-Tran or list any specs for it. Dealer Sells a McCormick fluid that lists it as a Hy-Tran replacement fluid. He claims you shouldn’t use the Ultra in my tractor. And the tractor manual doesn’t list Hy-Tran Ultra at all. Of course, Ultra might have not been out in ’90. The dealer just said Ultra was not good for my brakes. It was fine for everything else but my brakes might get grabby and wear faster. Never thought about looking for that stuff at TSC. I’ll check it out the next time I’m in town.

 

[slowrev]

I was at TSC Friday and their premium fliuid was $29.98 for a 5 gallon bucket. I have been using this in my old IH2444 for about 4 years with no problems. The 2444 has a ommon tranny and hydraulic sump. Mine does however have dry brakes, but should not be a problem with wet brakes.

Ben

 

[guss]

www.viscosityoil.com makes the oil for ih case newholland and others.

 

[IH3444]

Been using the same in my old International Harvester 3444, with 3141 backhoe. Used to buy Family Farm and fleet for $18, 5 gal. pail. Thought it was a bit thick, think 15, or 20 weight. Was OK in the spring, summer, and fall, but in the winter it would pop off the backhoe's relief valves. Now that Family Farm being absorbed by Tractor Supply I buy the TS brand hydraulic-transmission oil in 5 gal pails. Works better, and is a bit thinner, think a 10 weight. Last year it was going for $25, 5 gal pail, then they had 6 gal pails for $25. I bought 12, and am ready for the life of the hoe. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[tkcomer]

I was at TSC 2 days ago. Their Premium was about 30 bucks for 5 gallons and it did mention being a replacement for Hy-Tran. They also had Pennzoil. I think it was a little over 40 bucks. It also mentioned being a replacement for Hy-Tran. Is Pennzoil worth the extra money? I’m used to buy my hydro oil at the local New Holland dealer but he closed. I think it was something like NH-134 but it was a Hy-Tran replacement also. I haven’t changed hydro oil in several years since I only put about 100 hours a year on this tractor. So an extra 25 bucks isn’t going to break me if the gang thinks the Pennzoil brand is better.

 

[GerardC]

<font color="blue"> Their Premium was about 30 bucks for 5 gallons and it did mention being a replacement for Hy-Tran. </font>

That's what I use in my tractor. TSC Hy-Tran works very well. I say save the extra money for something else.

 

[BELIZE91]

I have been looking everywhere to find out what is the proper trans oil for a 3444? I just bought a basket case loader backhoe and the trans was drained some rust but I was able to free everything up with liquid wrench, I want to fille it while the top is off, I was thinking 80-90 gear, but a lot off tractors use hydralic oil. what uis proper for the 3444 last 60's model I think

 

[lightninboy]

If a Case IH dealer says he can't sell you Hy-Tran for a Case IH tractor that takes Hy-Tran, go to a different Case IH dealer.

 

[guest]

If a Case IH dealer says he can't sell you Hy-Tran for a Case IH tractor that takes Hy-Tran, go to a different Case IH dealer.

Right On. No good dealer will pass up on a sale!

I believe that as a registered dealer they must supply with a workable part for replacement,

 

[RickB]

Huh! I sell it the same for that model tractor! Haven't heard of that one. I've been experimenting some with the synthetics but their is no comparable in petroleum base oils as it's been the best for years and the ultra just keeps them up there! Get the ultra!

Could not agree more.

 

[art]

I have some Case-IH Hy-Tran Ultra for another tractor. It doesn稚 mention being a replacement for Hy-Tran or list any specs for it. Dealer Sells a McCormick fluid that lists it as a Hy-Tran replacement fluid. He claims you shouldn稚 use the Ultra in my tractor. And the tractor manual doesn稚 list Hy-Tran Ultra at all. Of course, Ultra might have not been out in ?0. The dealer just said Ultra was not good for my brakes. It was fine for everything else but my brakes might get grabby and wear faster. Never thought about looking for that stuff at TSC. I値l check it out the next time I知 in town.

Interesting that your dealer has it backwards! The ultra was improved for the wet brake tractors. You are correct that the ultra was not available in the 90's!

 

[Diggin It]

Interesting that your dealer has it backwards! The ultra was improved for the wet brake tractors. You are correct that the ultra was not available in the 90's!

Had it backwards almost 14 years ago. Post was made 12-05-2005, 09:22 AM, so maybe they got it straight by now.

 

[Texasmark]

I can't imagine a premium fluid not being suitable for regular grade trans-hyd fluid......and the dye is just dye used for identification purposes. My experience with fluids is that regular hyd or trans-hyd fluid is undyed and the premium like I buy at TSC is dyed orange just like the OEM premium in my tractors requiring a premium fluid for hydrostats and wet brakes to name a couple of reasons for the requirement.

 

[SinopecLubes]

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[RickB]

Hydraulic-Transmission Multi-functional Fluid


5 Gal Bucket for $42 with Free Delivery!


https://www.walmart.com/ip/Tractor-...rsal-Fluid-10W-30-5-Gallon-18-Liter/291278145


Tractor Fluid 10W-30 UTTO
John Deere JDM-J20C
Hydraulic/Hydrostatic Oil
Case New Holland MAT-3525, M2C-134 A-D, FNHA-2-D.201.00
Massey-Ferguson M1143, M1145
Kubota UDT
ZF TE-ML 03E, 05F, 06D, 06K, 17E, 21F
Caterpillar TO-2

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[IH3444]

I use the Tractor Supply universal hydraulic transmission oil in my IH3444. Tractor Supply now has Rotella transmission hydraulic fluid, 5 gal pail for $57. Stay away from Chinese oils. RicKB is spot on.