Loved Ones - Toyota

[Bird]

they have ordered their dealers to stop selling these vehicles until the problem is resolved

That's something I hadn't heard before. I only saw in the news that they quit manufacturing more of them for awhile; never knew they quit selling the ones in the dealers' inventory.

 

[Bird]

The other thing I find interesting is the recall Ford just put out for the same issue on some of their hybreds.

That's something else I hadn't heard yet. Where can I find information on that?

Oops, I found it.

 

[bp fick]

The other thing I find interesting is the recall Ford just put out for the same issue on some of their hybreds.

It is my understanding that the two situations are not the same. Ford's is not a recall, merely a software update. FWIW

 

[NuBota]

I'm still don't get the "brakes overpowering the engine thing" or "turn the key off"

Shift to Neutral, apply brakes and/or parking brake - right? Engine acceleration won't matter at that point and the brakes should "win" - Worst case, slam it in Park

Is the tranny failing to shift in any of these cases?

 

[turbo36]

Toyota may even have to sell their stock in Consumer Reports.

Two thumbs up!

 

[Deerlope]

Get a grip on reality. Toyota caused their own problems.

Ye but so did GM and the other big two. Toyota did ask the US tax payer to bail them out.

 

[aczlan]

Get a grip on reality. Toyota caused their own problems.

They may have caused their own problems, but his statement was obviously overkill as he retracted it later that day. If he personally feels that way it is one thing, but as the Secretary of the U.S. Department of Transportation he should not be saying such things in his official capacity unless there is an immediate danger of a large quantity of them having this issue.
It now says on his blog that

Regarding pedal stickiness:
* Pay attention to your gas pedal. If it is harder to depress than normal, or if it is slower to return, this may be a precursor to a sticky pedal. If you detect either of these conditions, please park the vehicle and contact the dealer immediately.
* To make sure dealers have the labor and resources to implement the remedy for either situation, owners of a recalled vehicle that is not exhibiting symptoms of pedal stickiness should wait until you receive a remedy notice before going to the dealer.
Regarding pedal entrapment:
* If a pedal becomes stuck while driving, put your car in neutral, bring it to a stop and call the dealer.
* Pedal entrapment occurs when a pedal becomes trapped by an out of place or unsecured floor mat.
* This is easy to prevent, and I encourage you to take this action: remove all floor mats on the drivers side of the vehicle or ensure that the mats are properly secured. Check to make sure any mats are properly secured after a car wash, servicing, or other activity during which they might have been moved. Do not ever stack mats on top of each other.

Thus it is not an IMMEDIATE threat if you are not having pedal stickiness and as such, his "stop driving it. Take it to a Toyota dealer because they believe they have a fix for it" comment is uncalled for.

It is like there being a fire in a trash can in the corner of a crowded theater and the fire chief rather than directing people out in a calm, orderly manner starts screaming FIRE RUN FOR YOUR LIVES. This is more serious than a fire in a trash can, but it isn't like every single one of these cars is going to suddenly going to jump up to 90 mph while driving 30 mph down a suburban street (at least that is what I gather from: Autoblog (specifically: Toyota's remedy for recalled pedals announced)).

Aaron Z

 

[Deerlope]

A few year back toyota had a head gasket problem. They did not just fix the ones that were bad they recalled every one of them and replaced the head gasket. The big three would have just kept on making vechiles and said to heck with the consumer let the dealers deal with it.
I never seen anyone from GM come on TV and thank the US tax payer for bailing them out or saying they regretted what happened. Toyota owned up to the problem and this is what is going to make them stronger than ever.

 

[etcallhome]

A few year back toyota had a head gasket problem. They did not just fix the ones that were bad they recalled every one of them and replaced the head gasket. The big three would have just kept on making vechiles and said to heck with the consumer let the dealers deal with it.
I never seen anyone from GM come on TV and thank the US tax payer for bailing them out or saying they regretted what happened. Toyota owned up to the problem and this is what is going to make them stronger than ever.

Well did any of the old Big 3 buy back trucks with rusted frames, or take cab and bed off deft frame and install a brand new one and I thought I heard or read this it didn't matter how many miles was on the truck. May have been only up to 100,000 and a certain age ,but even so They (Toyota ) is taking care of there customer and looking forward to a returning customer..
That is the difference between Toyota and Honda ,versus the old BIG 3 ,
Make that car or truck as quick as you can, doesn't matter what is working or not working ,just get it to the dealer and let them worry about the problem, and maybe the customer will get mad enough, when no one knows how to repair and will trade in for another one from the same dealer.!!! They will loose 2/3 or more of what they paid for there vehicle. I know I had 7 Dodge Gr Caravan the last one 01 pd $32,00 new trade on 03 Honda Van tradein value $10,500 they came up to $11,000 . Traded in 03 for 06 $31,000 new one $32500 I got just under 20,000 plus at no charge trailer package,driving lights, and mud guards all around, Payments increase $0.32 cents a mo....my 99 Caravan rear wheel bearing 41,000 the 01 Caravan 42,000 the rack and pinion was leaking...
We have 3 Chevy Colorado at work with around 60,000 miles , 4 calipers replaced out of 6, 4 wheel cylinders out of 6 (app $1000.00 ea) all kind of idling problems, idiot lights on the majority of the time, WHY sometime the dealer can get the lights out sometime they can't..Dealer has even told us they're just not sure what is the fix. These are just a few of the repairs on these 3 trucks... ..
At least Toyota is admitting the problem, they quit selling these cars till they had a fix , they are paying there dealers to help them get the cars repaired...Never have heard OLD BIG 3 to do anything like this...!!

 

[powerpace]

I owned a 1967 Chevy Caprice with about 20K on it. The Left engine mount broke as I was pulling into a parking space. It torqued up and hit the hood as I touched the gas pedal tearing the Fan Shroud all to pieces. Made a lot of noise, twice. My cousin said he could do a temporary fix by putting a chain on the motor and frame. Worked fine till I got it to the dealer a few days later. The dealer said that the broken engine mount was a problem with that model. They fixed it no problem. I got it home looked under the hood and what did I see but a new chain and lever holding the engine down. No new mount just the chain. That was the recommended fix.
As far as the Toyota recall, I own 2008 Prius and we are still considering buying a 2010 model.
We live in a world that is dangerous but we do have some control over our daily lives. Learning how to operate our vehicles in conditions not expected is a way to lessen our vulnerability.