Ls engine issue?

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Bbc396

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So I was at my dealer this morning trying to swing a deal on a new snowblower and I wondered over to the service department and noticed that Thay had a xr4140 that Thay were changing the engine in. Owning a 3135 I was concerned because Thay use the same engine. I asked the mechanic about it and he said Thay have a oil problem and this was the 7th engine that he has changed. Anyone have any engine issues with the xr series of tractors?
 
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Wonder what they say the oil problem is. Honestly this is the first I've heard of that.
 
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First thing I did when I got home was Google it and nothing came up. I would think if it were really a serious problem it would be all over the Internet..... the mechanic said he has done 7 to date but I know the one Thay had thare today was full of metal in the oil like a bearing failure. And it had 172 hours on it
 
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So I was at my dealer this morning trying to swing a deal on a new snowblower and I wondered over to the service department and noticed that Thay had a xr4140 that Thay were changing the engine in. Owning a 3135 I was concerned because Thay use the same engine. I asked the mechanic about it and he said Thay have a oil problem and this was the 7th engine that he has changed. Anyone have any engine issues with the xr series of tractors?

It would be helpful if you would add your location to your profile.
 
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New brunswick canada just curious why you needed to know?
 
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New brunswick canada just curious why you needed to know?


Some people seem to enjoy stopping by for tea and crumpets.

In this case, maybe it's a regional issue? Bad batch of engines to one area? Altitude, temperature or other climate factors? Like you said, this would be all over the web if it was widespread.
 
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Some people seem to enjoy stopping by for tea and crumpets.

In this case, maybe it's a regional issue? Bad batch of engines to one area? Altitude, temperature or other climate factors? Like you said, this would be all over the web if it was widespread.

Maybe somebody should tell the Dealer to put oil in them before they send them out the door :scratchchin:
 
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I did hear that it is very important that you follow the oil spec that is specified for this motor ... thinking that oil barrel of 15W40 that you kept for your other tractors will be fine will cost you. Apparently the little turbo will starve and then go boom - sometimes taking other engine parts with it. But that is just what I think I heard (being a senior my hearing is not always the best) from an LS mechanic.
 
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I did hear that it is very important that you follow the oil spec that is specified for this motor ... thinking that oil barrel of 15W40 that you kept for your other tractors will be fine will cost you. Apparently the little turbo will starve and then go boom - sometimes taking other engine parts with it. But that is just what I think I heard (being a senior my hearing is not always the best) from an LS mechanic.

You can't run a Turbo-Diesel all day long at peak power then turn it off real quick to go have lunch. You can't even run them for an extended period at power and turn them off abruptly.

Those Turbos get hot. Real hot. Really, really hot. And when you cut off the air-flow that they get while running, they'll cook themselves. You need to let them idle for anywhere from 30 seconds to 5 five minutes, depending on how heat-soaked they are. Most of the time, just a few seconds if you haven't used the turbo much.

It also helps if you run something other than that old generic 15w-40 left over from your 1974 JD that's in the corner of the barn.

These new engines from LS are state-of-the-art engines. And they require more care and more knowledge than the old indirect injection diesels. Clearances are tighter, machining is far superior..... So many improvements and differences.

Would I be surprised to find there is a learning curve in these engines and there might be some things that need corrected/fixed? No, I would not.

But 7 engines in one dealer's repair shop?

I don't think so. Maybe more like, the mechanic has tried 7 times to fix the same engine. I'd buy that one.

I think the mechanic was funnin' the OP.

If 7 engines went back to a dealer, ANY dealer anywhere, the factory would shut down production until they tracked down the problem.

I've heard ducks fart underwater before.
 
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I have a feeling these engines come from the factory with a 15-40 Dino oil to help things break in. I can see how if new owner fired up their new tractors in sub zero temps and immediately revved it up to PTO speed, that it would definitely destroy an engine in short order.
My manual specifically says that when starting below 14F (or -10C) that 5W-30 is required. A northern climate dealership should not be selling tractors without first changing the oil to a 5W-30 as recommended in the owners manual.
There is recent story about a runaway engine where is sounds like the seal in the turbo blew out. I don’t think it is coincidental that it happened during the worst cold snap in decades.
Edit: this is the most compelling reason I can think of to switch to a 5W-40 synthetic oil.
 
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If I were in Canada, I would be looking at 0W-30 or 0W-40 oil year round for any engine.

I agree that the OEM would be all over that dealer if he has installed 7 engines or even if he fixed 7 engines in one tractor with 170 hours on it. 25 hours per engine is a bit much. I would suspect that the dealer has some incompetent mechanics working for him if that has happened and LS would be looking very strongly at that dealer.
 
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For the record, I changed the oil in my 4140 at 31hrs and put in 5W40 synthetic (although dealer said 10W30 would work but had no issues with running 5W40) ... had many the -45 days up here this winter and it has had no problem (although a warm up for a few minutes is a good idea)
 
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In that case, if anyone is going to the show in Louisville this week, they might want to point the LS Corporate people to this thread.
 
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My Cummins right from the factory comes with Valvoline Premium Blue Extreme New and Improved (jk on the newnimproved) Synthetic 5w-40.

Rams with Cummins in them are very popular up North in the Oil Sands and whatever else kind of muck they can drill or make oil with. And new owners were gettin' kinda miffed when their brand-spanking-new $70k truck wouldn't start in the cold. Really cold. As in, when you spit, it hits the ground as an ice cube.

So Ram factory-fills ALL their 6.7 CTD's with the aforementioned synthetic. No matter where they're sold. Unless something has changed in the last 6 Months

Depending on what's on sale, I run 5w-40 Synthetic in my Truck. T-6, M1, or the Extreme. I stay with those three.

Love it. Warms up quicker, moves sooner and faster, cools off better, doesn't 'coke' on your turbo.

And at $20 a Gallon........... Why would you run anything else?
 
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FWIW I've heard that LS are quite well engineered ans their engines are very good.
The only downfall is that dealers are mostly Mom & Pop shops whose technical expertise is very low.
I suppose they have to start somewhere.
 
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2018 Boomer 40 26 hours went boom on me yesterday while plowing. Went into first regen...then lots of exhaust smoke and rod clatter. Engine siezed after pumping 4 quarts of oil out of exhaust. Not a good day. Dealer picked up to diagnose.
 
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2018 Boomer 40 26 hours went boom on me yesterday while plowing. Went into first regen...then lots of exhaust smoke and rod clatter. Engine siezed after pumping 4 quarts of oil out of exhaust. Not a good day. Dealer picked up to diagnose.

Rusty that's not good. Can you follow up with us and let us know what happened.

Almost sounds like your turbo let go and threw all the oil out the exhaust.
 
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I to at 45 hours changed my old to 5w40 synthetic. I am a licensed mechanic and kinda found it odd to that 7 engines failed I could see maybe 1 from improper oil and cold Temps. I feel with a turbo synthetic oil is a must but then again just my opinion. Only issue I had with mine was at 32 hours with the first regeneration my dpf developed a Crack but had no issue getting a new one from my dealer I installed myself.
 

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