Buying Advice LS vs TYM vs Kioti

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I'm assuming lift capacity is the 3 point lift capacity not loader?

You would be correct with that assumption.

 

[Torvy]

You would be correct with that assumption.

Absolutely false in this case. These are the loader specs for the kl4030 that goes on the CK2610 HST.

https://www.kioti.com/products/attachments/front-end-loaders/kl4030/

 

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Absolutely false in this case. These are the loader specs for the kl4030 that goes on the CK2610 HST.

https://www.kioti.com/products/attachments/front-end-loaders/kl4030/

Things are not making sense here in the least.
First, 3 point hitch capacity has always been substantially more than fel capacity as hydraulic flow is much more robust in this area.
Secondly, their rollback force is weaker than its boom lift as demonstrated here. That's tough to believe.
Thirdly, I questioned this myself and pressed the Kioti site a bit deeper. It was there that I discovered that their purported lift capacity was aimed at the 3 point.
So I question "absolutely false". Lots of mistakes on web copy can be found.
I am wondering if this loader with an appropriate pump can reach those capacities and if the smaller CK's use a smaller hydraulic pump.

 

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Yanmar has been making great tractors for years, just not under their own name. They are new to the US (again) and establishing their dealer network. I hope they grow fast and strong.

They've been making tractors under their own name for 12 years now so in comparison, I guess they're "new."
They are the company that made the first applicable small Diesel engine in 1937.

 

[tacticalturnip]

The CK's use the same pump throughout the 3 (6 if you count the SE as separate) models.

Now that said, Kioti's numbers are at the pin, so that's to be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[tacticalturnip]

They've been making tractors under their own name for 12 years now so in comparison, I guess they're "new."
They are the company that made the first applicable small Diesel engine in 1937.

I believe he's saying that Yanmar is just recently getting back into the U.S. market under their own name.

 

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The CK's use the same pump throughout the 3 (6 if you count the SE as separate) models.

Now that said, Kioti's numbers are at the pin, so that's to be taken with a grain of salt.

That may be why their roll back is less.
Since you own one of these, does your manual state the fel lift capacity?
Even at the pins, this seems alot for a smaller frame.

 

[tacticalturnip]

That may be why their roll back is less.
Since you own one of these, does your manual state the fel lift capacity?
Even at the pins, this seems alot for a smaller frame.

It does. It's out in the garage, but I'll look at it when I head outside. It's probably in the workshop manual as well.

I'll get back to you asap on this.

 

[airbiscuit]

Yanmar farm tractors by model​

(Tractordata.com)

The Yanmar was founded in Japan in 1912. The firm has a long history with small diesel engines. The agricultural equipment division of the company was started in 1961. Yanmar entered into an arrangement with John Deere and began building several utility tractor models in the early 1980s for Deere. Yanmar continues to be an engine supplier for Deere's utility tractors. Yanmar entered an agreement with MTD in 2006 to jointly market compact tractors under the Cub Cadet Yanmar name in North America. The arrangement ended in 2011 and Yanmar America became the sole provider for the tractors.

i'm a big fan of Yanmars. There are a lot of G]green and yellow ones out there. It would have been interesting if they had stayed as a stand alone brand in the 70s instead of making tractors for John Deere. In my opinion they are still in the early days of establishing a dealer network.

Their i-HMT transmission is really cool - like a hydro without the power loss

 

[LouNY]

The Kioti CK20SE series tractor which will spec out the same as the non SE models and the older CK10 series will spec out the same in hydraulic flow and pressure through out the series.
From the CK2620 to the CK4020 which is 11.33 gallon per minute flow, the tractors all have the same 3 point capacity of 1621 pounds at 24" from the hitch.

Kioti tractors and loaders for the CK 2620; break out at ground 3464 pound, Lift Capacity at 59.84 in. (1,520 mm) Pivot Pin Height 1,835 lbs. (832 kg)

So two possible loaders for the CK 10 or 20 series tractors which are used on all the tractors in that line regardless of engine HP, so lift and carrying capacities are the same through the CK series of tractor on both loaders and 3 point. And the loaders do have more capacity then the 3 points do.