Buying Advice LS vs TYM vs Kioti

   / LS vs TYM vs Kioti #41  
Sure would not want to risk towing over the stated capacity. First, it is illegal, but more importantly, if you were to have any sort of failure, the lawyers would have a field day with you. That's in addition to the fact that you are damaging the truck, even if you cannot yet see or hear the damage.
 
   / LS vs TYM vs Kioti #42  
If budget is your biggest concern, hard to beat the bang for your buck of the TYM tractor.

Mike
 
   / LS vs TYM vs Kioti #43  
I bought a TYM 474H last year, 35 HP, with FEL and a backhoe as well as a 7.5' sickle bar for mowing the banks on my 14.5-acre farm. That tractor is a real workhorse. Just got done digging out a 24' x 50' space in the hillside for a new pole barn I'm going to build(The entire barn will be set back into the hillside length-wise). The cut-out starts @ 5' high and ends @ 10'. Didn't have a single issue with it while digging and pulled boulders out of the ground I thought it never could do, then moved them with the FEL to an out-of-the-way area for later use.

Very good machine with great features.

TYM, it's the way to go!
 
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   / LS vs TYM vs Kioti #44  
However, I was thinking of starting a bush hogging/tractor services business. If I do 1 or 2 jobs a month...to make the payment..I essentially have a free tractor.
It's no different than Lunch in that "There is no Free Tractor."

How seriously were you 'thinking about a tractor services business?'

Did you draft a business plan yet? Do you know the cost of the liability insurance for instance? Would your existing insurance on your 150 be voided if you were involved in an accident while transporting your tractor to or from a jobsite? Or would you even tell the company about your "tractor service business" and hope they didn't stumble upon one of your ads or this post?

What is the local competition like? What are they charging?

"Roughly half of all small business' fail within the first five years"

What would your service area consist of? Your average round trip? Do you record you fuel consumption presently? Know your average MPG? Empty? Loaded? Towing a ????# tractor and implements?

"The best tractor financing programs require credit scores over 680 . . ."

At current rates (7.25-7.35%), what would a $20,000 tractor actually cost if spread over six years? What would teh Financing costs amount to? With shop rates as high as $125/hour what would you expect your maintenance costs would average per annum? BTW, would the finance company require you carry insurance on the tractor and trailer?

Add it all up and add ten percent or more just to be 'conservative.'

Now, what would it cost you to rent equipment as needed? Or how about hiring someone else to accomplish those few tasks?
 
   / LS vs TYM vs Kioti #45  
For now I'm happy with my LS but would not shy away from the other brands. Good and bad in all of them, there is no right answer in my opinion. Only what works for you.
He will know the right tractor about a year after purchasing it.
 
   / LS vs TYM vs Kioti #46  
Do you think NOW is the time to buy? Or would waiting till next spring be better? Do you think tractor prices will go down if they keep having inventory and no one is buying them....????
If the economy tanks enough to cause tractor prices to drop then you will possibly have one or two problems. No dealer stock or you will be afraid to turn loose of the money because the economy is so bad.
 
   / LS vs TYM vs Kioti #47  
To be fair, most- if not all- of these tractors lack an ECM.

[EDIT]: Also want to add that all other things being equal, a 25 horsepower machine will do almost anything the 35 horsepower equivalent will do, just slower.
Difference in weight of tractors will make a lot of difference on it being capable of doing what you want done. Most tractors will spin its wheels if tied to a tree. The weight of the tractor will determine how far the tree bends before the wheels spin.
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   / LS vs TYM vs Kioti #48  
Difference in weight of tractors will make a lot of difference on it being capable of doing what you want done. Most tractors will spin its wheels if tied to a tree. The weight of the tractor will determine how far the tree bends before the wheels spin.View attachment 804274
Depends just as much on the size of the tree, the root system and soil conditions. Just pushed over some cedars that size in soft (wet) soil with no rocks. In other conditions it would be hopeless.
Weight is you friend until you get into the swamp...... My LS will sink in places my BX will work all day.
 
   / LS vs TYM vs Kioti #49  
I really appreciate yours and everyone's replies.

Why do you think the package is high? Coming with a loader, grapple and Rotary cutter and trailer...I thought it was a Decent "deal" for T25. I like that tractor as I've watched Tony's tractor adventures on YT. He used that and his T494. He did some impressive stuff just to show that the T25 could do it.

I'll check that link out...thanks again!
If it was my decision, I would forgo the grapple in the package and buy a larger more powerful machine.
 
   / LS vs TYM vs Kioti #50  
Depends just as much on the size of the tree, the root system and soil conditions. Just pushed over some cedars that size in soft (wet) soil with no rocks. In other conditions it would be hopeless.
Weight is you friend until you get into the swamp...... My LS will sink in places my BX will work all day.
Once your tire cleats fill with mud you aren't going anywhere. But the meat of my story is the heavier the more pulling. At least until the front end starts talking to Jesus, then it's find the clutch quick or look for the 'Pearly Gates'.
There is an old saying that tire traction is great until the front of the tractor starts waving bye bye! (That 1130 MF would wave bye bye a lot but it weighed 10,000 pounds plus, with no front loader.)
 

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