Buying Advice LS vs TYM vs Kioti

[DrAsus]

That's not a good package deal. I just paid $20,500 for a CK2610; and I already own the trailer (6'4"x16') that cost $2799. I'll admit, I didn't get any impliments; but it feels like that package is a real bad deal. If you where really going to pay $12k over the base; that better be the best trailer in the country. I would say, build your own package by shopping the trailer you want, the tractor you want, and the best deal on impliments you can find.

I REALLY like kioti. To ME...they have the best bang for your buck.
Everyone around here is out of ck2610s...and have ck2620s..which went up in price about 3 or 4k!
Kioti dealer is over an hour away.

I'm really leaning Ls..cause that dealer I could ride a bicycle to if needed...literally like 3 miles from my house.

 

[arrow]

I REALLY like kioti. To ME...they have the best bang for your buck.
Everyone around here is out of ck2610s...and have ck2620s..which went up in price about 3 or 4k!
Kioti dealer is over an hour away.

I'm really leaning Ls..cause that dealer I could ride a bicycle to if needed...literally like 3 miles from my house.

I'd go there in a heart beat.
Everyone makes a good tractor and every manufacturer produces a lemon now and again. Its a matter of fortune and care as to the durability and reliability quotient one gets back from their machine so "brand" is not as critical to me more than back up from the dealership.

You'd be surprised how many times you'd go if its close by as opposed if was an hr or more away.

 

[Texasmark]

A couple of years ago I bought an LS MT2 25s....25 hp. Really a well thought out machine with operator conveniences a fore thought. Its a hydro and this old school boy wouldn't have it any other way now that I have owned a hydro for a tractor that size and jobs for which it was designed.

It handles a 5' rotary mower just fine in my grass patches. If you get in too thick just move over and cut a narrower swath. A good quality product.

 

[Torvy]

The only issue I saw with LS is really situational. The loaders tend to lift max of 8-12" lower than similar competitors. It really only matters if you need that extra 8-12".

 

[CloverKnollFarms]

The only issue I saw with LS is really situational. The loaders tend to lift max of 8-12" lower than similar competitors. It really only matters if you need that extra 8-12".

And the threads here about limp mode and codes from the ECM. I was very close to buying an LS

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

Yeah..the T264 or T25 are the ones in the 25k package.

I just saw a Larry stoves and equipment video on YouTube and he has this week's special pick 3 of CK2620 with 20ft trailer for $33,500. I really would love to have a kioti...but $8500 is a lot of change.
Yes I know the ck2620 can do a little more work than a T25....but 8500 is 8500! Lol

We have a TYM on the farm. It's a decent little machine. I'm sure TYMs have gotten better since it was purchased in '06. Having said that, I think I'd trust a Kioti more than I'd trust either a TYM or an LS.

My two cents.

 

[gumshu]

You should go for the CK3510. If not now, then later… when you can afford it. If you get a smaller tractor, you will, more than likely, regret it later. I had the Bobcat CT35 (a Kioti) back in 2009 and loved it. After selling it and moving to another property, I bought a smaller 25hp JD. I later realized it was not powerful enough for many tasks… and I was limited to smaller implements (very frustrating). I should have kept the CT35.
if you can swing Cash, Kioti has a cash discount which amounts to thousands off the regular price.

 

[MESSMAKER]

So....a 20ft trailer w/ a TYM T25 with loader and Rotary cutter is gonna weigh more than 11,000 pounds that my truck is rated to pull?????
Yeah..right

I don't think so. I pull a 45hp tractor with loader and 6 foot cutter on a 20 foot trailer. It is about 8000lb. I pull it anywhere I want to go with a Tundra with no issues.

 

[paulsharvey]

I can say a Ram 1500 with 16 ft 7000# dual axle trailer, and the Ck2610 is a non-issue. Stopping, mild hills, 60-65 mph, and trailer breaks not hooked up (haven't got around to adding controller to truck). Now, in an emergency breaking situation, is the stopping distance going to be greater, yes, that's physics; so increase your follow distance from 3 seconds to 4 or 5 seconds. Drive smart, and don't forget its back there; but other than some mild squat; you pulling and normal stopping, you really Could forget it's back there.

There is really two crowds on trucks and pulling; one that pulls a 12000 lbs skid steer trailer combo with a GMC Canyon, or a Ford Explorer, and brags about it; and the second that claims you need a 2500-3500 too pull a landscape trailer. The truth is in the middle. If you're pulling 7000 lbs all day, 5 days a week; sure, upsize; but if we are talking 4 times a month, less than 65 mph, role with the 1500. Honestly, are you reducing the working life of the 1500; maybe from 300k too 250k; Unless you like to drag race red light to red light. Ask if that slightly greater wear and tear is more or less money than using the 3500 for your everyday use.

I would be more concerned with making sure your trailer tires are in good shape; as no matter the tow vehicle weight; you blow a trailer tire out with a good load, your in for a sketchy ride.

Edit: Unlike me, do the smart thing, though, get the trailer brake controller, maybe get a higher load range tire on the 1500; ect; or "Do dangerous stuff carefully". Be smart about your tie downs, check trailer tire pressure and truck tire pressure; its ok to run the speed limit, or 5 mph below; people might get mad, but they will get over it, or go around...

 

[Torvy]

We have a TYM on the farm. It's a decent little machine. I'm sure TYMs have gotten better since it was purchased in '06. Having said that, I think I'd trust a Kioti more than I'd trust either a TYM or an LS.

My two cents.

Two of the TYM dealers I dealt with also sold Kioti. Your take does not jive with theirs. Don't get me wrong, Kioti's are not bad, but they both said the TYMs spend less time in the shop being repaired.