Lucas oil stanilizer

[rnh1]

Have used this for years with good results. I talked to a mechanic that said it gunks up engines. I usually use Rotella 5-40 in my engines

 

[mkreitler]

All LUCAS PRODUCTS are SNAKE OIL!

 

[Edward. S]

BITOG has sent for a virgin oil analysis and theres nothing in it. Just heavy oil with nothing.

 

[Looking4new]

That is good to find out!

 

[Copperhead]

Yep, what Edward said. LOS was analyzed and it had not additives of any kind. Just a heavy base oil. It is an oil thickener and that is it.


But, I could never get past the name itself.... Lucas Oil Stabilizer. What is unstable about modern oils and lubes that they need Forrest Lucas to come along and stabilize them? The whole thing seems goofy. And since it is only a thickener with no additives, if someone wants a thicker oil then just buy a thicker motor oil with all the additives at a cheaper price!

 

[DEWFPO]

I never understood it either. I guess it's just like STP Oil Treatment or Engine Honey. It can quiet a noisy engine a little but probably provides more harm than good to the engine itself. Your just adding, very thick, un-additized oil to a good oil package already in the engine.

DEWFPO

 

[drizler]

I never understood it either. I guess it's just like STP Oil Treatment or Engine Honey. It can quiet a noisy engine a little but probably provides more harm than good to the engine itself. Your just adding, very thick, un-additized oil to a good oil package already in the engine.

DEWFPO

I recall there being a video once someplace showing the Lucas tranny oil stabilizer in action. The surprising thing was that it had on noteworthy effect. When added to the oem's oil it caused cavitation and foaming that didn't exist prior to its being added. That was plenty enough tho convince me to steer clear. It may look good turning that crank on the plastic box at low RPMs on the counter at NAPA but actual operating speed is entirely different.

 

[Copperhead]

Used to be an extensive article at the BITOG website, including pictures, of testing they did using LOS. You are right, when it is on the counter at the parts store is one thing, but being tossed around in a gear box or engine is quite another.

 

[Gary Fowler]

The only ADDITIVE that I know that works is STABIL on ethanol gasoline. I don't use anything other than that. I suppose if I lived a bit further north, I would also add a anti-gel agent to my diesel and possibly a biocide if needed but so far non of that has been needed here.

All oils today are 1000% better than 50 years ago(and they did a fair job of protection even back then) and need no further additives.

 

[Copperhead]

And with the standards oils have to meet now.... SN, GF-5, Dexos, VW, MB, CJ-4, etc, etc, etc, on down the line, to think that they need something else in them that Forrest Lucas cooked up in warehouse seems strange. But man, he sure has developed a dedicated following. No one has yet proven to me that it helps that much, if any. I have seen lots of commercial truck engines go well beyond 1 million miles without major repairs without LOS in them. But folks that do use it want to be able to justify their choice, so they will claim their engine went to some extreme length of time because of LOS in them, yet for every one of those claims you can find as many examples of engines that did the same thing just on regular oil with no LOS. I took a Cummins N-14 to 1.4 million miles, sold it, and it went right to work for the next guy, and it never got LOS at any time. Just a Kendall 15w40 and 30,000 mile oil changes. All I ever had to do to that motor was one injector and a accessory drive seal.

To be fair to Lucas and not totally shoot him down, I have heard of many positive stories from die hards and skeptic alike regarding his fuel injector cleaner stuff. I am partial to his 5th wheel lube also. So not everything Lucas puts in a bottle is snake oil.

 

[Ed of all trades]

I don't know about the tests etc. but I stopped at a friends gun shop and he showed me the lucas oil stabilizer. He used it as a cutting oil. He chucked up a piece of 3/8 mild steel in the drill press and put a few drops of Lucas on a piece of steel plate. I put a lot of pressure on the thing spinning in the Lucas. It resulted in no heat, the same thing with motor oil would burn you. STP would not keep it cool, the same hot as oil. I know what I saw, more than snake oil.

 

[Copperhead]

Similar thing as the Timken Bearing Test or "one armed bandit" that it is called by many folks in the lube field. You can even make Head and Shoulders Shampoo out perform a top of the line synthetic oil if you know what you are doing. Check out this vid....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne7ayhPVVYY

 

[kenmac]

I don't add anything to my oil. I buy good oil..

 

[mkreitler]

Dear Copperhead a lot of Lucas has to do with marketing if you see it everywhere some people believe. Remember the saying out of site out of mind. That says a lot about everything if you know what I mean. Myself I use AMSOIL & SCHAEFFER'S!

 

[TCJatko]

All LUCAS PRODUCTS are SNAKE OIL!

Where do they find all those snakes? Are they harmed during the process? inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Ed of all trades]

Similar thing as the Timken Bearing Test or "one armed bandit" that it is called by many folks in the lube field. You can even make Head and Shoulders Shampoo out perform a top of the line synthetic oil if you know what you are doing. Check out this vid....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne7ayhPVVYY

The thing is I did the test NOT him, and he recommended it for cutting tools in the metal shop.

 

[Eric C]

Interesting posts. Thanks for the info.

 

[Ed of all trades]

By the way, I don't buy Lucas oil treatment.

 

[Bigfoot62]

I've used it myself, and liked the results. Nothing scientific. Just personal preference.

Some people swear by it, others swear at it.

YMMV

 

[KC135plt]

I put it in my 2001 F250 7.3L at an oil change at ~ 100,000 miles. Within 30 miles I started having hesitation and starting problems where I had never had issues before. I was running Rotella 15W-40. I immediately changed the oil and again (takes almost 4 gallons) and all the issues went away--That was enough for me! I now run Rotella T6 (straight!) and she is purring right along with no issues, almost a quarter million miles with no significant engine issues. Though I may try it for drilling steel!