Richard, I re read most of this post and you mentioned a rear work light and factory wiring. Are these the wires (unused) on the r.h. side of the rops? And is it tied to the fact. sw? BTW, thanks for the bolt sizes earlier. The dealer had some of them and I went on a wild goose chase for the 1.5x18 that go in a hole that I don't think you used. I am in the woods with lots of stumps and rocks that are invisible in the summer with all the prickers (rasberries) & crap that have grown up since the last logging. This is the reason for my full "pan". I'm basically making 3 crossmembers. 1 at the rear axle, 1 at the back of trans and one at the clutch area, of 2x2x.25 sq tube that will hopefully support the tractor . Then for the engine and front area, I built some brackets that extend down from the front 2 loader bolts and running some bars back to the front new crossmember. I'm going to use .25 plate for the actual pan. This job has been a good "head scratcher" as to mounting points, making it removable for service, and ending up at the same "elevation" for a smooth skid pan along with trying to keep it reasonable in size while trying to guess at every angle a stick can get in and poke something. As you noted, there is a ton of stuff down there that is not protected at all, fine if you're just brushing it with some nice tall Timothy or something, but not so much for brush hogging saplings. In my terrain, I usually back in with the mower up high to (hopefully) see the rocks & stumps, then pull out with the mower lowered. This leaves some nasty "spears" on that the way out! Not to mention the "slash" that was left and the tires love to kick up. I am starting to do some paint primer now on some of the parts and I'll put some pic's up later. Maybe I'll start a thread. Thanks for your help.