Mahindra vrs JD

LarryRB · Jul 7, 2004

From Bob
" You must understand, and I did imply, my local dealers started out high. I did say I kept them honest with the reality of the internet. I did say I pushed them hard in negotiations, but in the end, the local guy now doesn't need any coaxing for me to get the best prices."

I think most of us do understand your points.. In our New England area, the dealers attitude is pay this price or walk.. If one starts negotiating, it becomes a lost cause and frustrating.. I had dealers after telling them, I looked at the internet, and they walked away.. I ended up buying a Mahindra (100 miles away but still in state) as they offered a 11 ft backhoe on a 40 HP machine.. this tractor didn't come cheap (in my eyes) however, it was thousands cheaper than any big 4, orange, orange, green and blue.. Since then, I have had big 4 dealers that offered reasonable pricing if I was willing to travel some. Sad that there is such disparity in pricing.. I still believe Kubota and Kioti made a fatal mistake by not allowing internet pricing.. At least lists prices as set by factory, should be out there. Here again, New England area, I've priced certain model Kubotas and Deere's with "lists" prices that are very radical between dealers some 40 miles apart.. Why is a machine (Kubota) 32000 at one and identical machine 49 miles away is 39000 and still lists price?

LarryRB · Jul 7, 2004

were you at Big Boys toys out in the farmers field?

cowboydoc · Jul 7, 2004

I always laugh at these figures. I could get a 4210 John Deere with FEL out the door for $16,170. That makes the JD the lowest price of all that you mentioned. You only see JD compared with their full retail price and always the discounted price of the others.

DK35vince · Jul 7, 2004

( I always laugh at these figures. I could get a 4210 John Deere with FEL out the door for $16,170. That makes the JD the lowest price of all that you mentioned. You only see JD compared with their full retail price and always the discounted price of the others. )

Where are you seeing the discounted price on the others ?
I just priced a Kioti CK 30 gear, ags, and loader for $14,700.
CK 30 hydro,ags and loader for $15,500.
It looked like all the prices mentioned were full retail to me!

Bob_Skurka · Jul 7, 2004

Larry I think I do understand that your local dealers are much tougher to deal with. However, if I were located where you are, the first thing I would do is mortgage my house and open up a Kioti or Mahindra dealership. It would be pretty easy to sell either of the brands at full dealer list and still dramatically undercut the Big 3 brands. And I am not trying to sound contrite with my response. So if I had my heart set on a JD/NH/Kubota, I guess I would simply go find another brand that would do the tasks I needed done, and I think Kioti & Mahindra might be the two top choices on my list. And I would do that because if I shipped a tractor in 1000 miles from somewhere and then needed a new "whachajgger" in a hurry because the tractor is stuck in the field after making a really bad sound, I would think that the dealer who lost the sale would probably take his sweet time coming out to see me and my problems and when/if he did, I'd end up paying for the difference in the tractor price for that repair.

But all that said, it has nothing to do with the questions asked in the initial post. What size tractor does he need to do a series of tasks, and is there a functional difference between the two brands to justify the price differential?

dieselsmoke1 · Jul 7, 2004

What's the specs on the 28 hp 4210 mentioned in an earlier post? From the price I'd guess a 2wd with a manual tranny.

Let's think about this a minute....

I bought a 28 hp 2810 HST 4wd with belly pto, FEL, R4's, 3 year warranty, 3 year 0%, on the trailer for $15,500.

And maybe I could have gotten the stripped down green one described above for only $670 more if I was a repeat customer. Of course I would have had to give up about 1000 pounds in weight and about 20 % of my lift capacity and many of the Mahindra's options mentioned above,
but I'd have gotten used to it I guess.

Bottom line, I've put in 30 hours of close quarters loader work in the last 4 days and if I were to live the the tractor purchase day over again, I am absolutely sure I would make the same decision again.

Neither chose is wrong, just depends on what's important to you and your situation.

Good Luck.

SteveH_CT · Jul 8, 2004

Not sure - I didn't catch the name - I passed it as I was going from Brooklyn Prison over to Bergin prison out in Storrs. I believe I was on route 169 and they were on the right hand side. I also passed a Greyhound breeder out there - I think I need to pay them a visit as well.

LarryRB · Jul 8, 2004

Yep, that ws big boys toys.. You were only a few miles from Junkman/AndyMA and myself.. Should try to swing by sometime

MessickFarmEqu · Jul 8, 2004

Its funny looking though these treads, it seems to be me that the Kioti/Mahindra only exist in areas where the big 3 dealers are pricing really high. In our area, Kubota sells for the the same or lower prices than what some other people are quoting for an off brand tractor. I have yet to see a dealer who has been successful with an off brand within 200 miles, likly because they aren't showing a substantial price difference.

DAP · Jul 8, 2004

( Larry I think I do understand that your local dealers are much tougher to deal with. )

Bob ... this simply must segue into another thread. Its in Buying/Pricing and called "A New England Regional State of Mind".