Mahindra vs Kioti

[Kioti Dave]

I'm looking at buying a 35 or 40 hp with a loader and cab. Mahindra have the 2638 with 37.4 hp and Kioti have a dk 4210 se which is 39.6 hp and looks better with more equipment. I'm wondering if anyone out there knows which one would be the best to buy? I do landscaping in the summer and snow removal in the winter.

And be sure to go to each dealer and drive the tractors around the yard for a while. I put 3 hours on my Kioti in the dealers yard before I purchased.

 

[bridge4]

All I can say is I have 24 hours on my 2638 and have been happy. I wouldn't be mad about owning a Kioti tho. After buying my first tractor I've come to the conclusion that I could always want a thing or two another tractor might have, but you can usually add them on later. And bottom line, if it moves the stuff I want it to move, without breaking all the time, I'm happy.

I think either would be a great choice, just make sure you can find parts for what you pick. I recommend making a decision and never looking back!

 

[nards444]

I wonder what the parts situation is with the rural king line of tractors. They are also made by TYM. Maybe a viable source for parts or might even be worth a trip out of NY. My experience pricing tractors in New York is I could travel to PA and buy one for a bad price and still save money compared to the best price I got from any dealer in NY.

Not picking on NY but every brand that I priced up there was way higher!

Well RK, Branson, are all owned by TYM, and TYM makes some Mahindras. Now what parts are interchangeable etc, who knows. Might be a viable option to get parts, but could be a nightmare in cross referencing etc. Like I said I would have really liked to get a TYM, I could have gotten at 474 for the same price as my Kubota 2650. But like I said we kind of live somewhat remote, and Kubota parts are easier to get.

You are right on NY pricing, its basically MSRP everywhere and thats it. Heard that from many people. I looked at PA, But Kind of came down to time, gas money etc, would have saved, but at the time easier to just get local.

 

[ericm979]

The TYM assembled Mahindras have Mahindra engines. The other parts may not be common with TYM models.

TYM owns Branson but except for one 19hp SCUT the Branson line is totally different than TYM's line. Some TYMs now come with engines from Kukje, who are Branson's parent company that TYM bought.

 

[MechanicalGuy]

Mahindra can't really compete with the South Korean Tractor brands machine wise. They might have a more attractive price though, they are lesser machines.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Mahindra can't really compete with the South Korean Tractor brands machine wise. They might have a more attractive price though, they are lesser machines.

Which are lesser machines?

 

[MechanicalGuy]

Which are lesser machines?

Virtually anything Mahindra makes is a lesser machine than a comparable Kioti, engineering and mechanics-wise.

 

[5030]

Not that I own either because I don't but, if I was buying a new one, I'd buy the Kioti over the Mahindra simply because the Kioti is made in South Korea and is an offshoot of a Kubota tractor whereas the Mahindra is is built in India and I'm not impressed with anything Indian.

My personal view.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

Virtually anything Mahindra makes is a lesser machine than a comparable Kioti, engineering and mechanics-wise.

Agreed.... The local Mahindra dealer was far less than 'impressive' when I was shopping. I actually thought they were a "used" dealership. Most of his stock units were faded, dirty, and definitely appeared to be "used", even though they were new. When I got prices from him, they were the same prices for the comparable Kubota and JD (not that they were really comparable). I'm surprised he stays in business.

 

[bridge4]

I am not gonna argue that a kubota and probably a kioti (never used one or even seen one) aren't better than a Mahindra. But it isn't like we die as soon as we step on our tractors like you guys are making it sound. Holy smokes, like there isn't a bunch of "wtf is going on with my kubota" threads out there.



Plus, some of our rigs are now made in South Korea right next to yours. I know mine was even assembled down the road in Penn.



And EVEN BETTER, some are made in China :laughing::cool2:

 

[Streetcar]

Kioti is not offshoot of Kubota.look similar but not related

 

[paulfun9]

I am not gonna argue that a kubota and probably a kioti (never used one or even seen one) aren't better than a Mahindra. But it isn't like we die as soon as we step on our tractors like you guys are making it sound. Holy smokes, like there isn't a bunch of "wtf is going on with my kubota" threads out there.



Plus, some of our rigs are now made in South Korea right next to yours. I know mine was even assembled down the road in Penn.



And EVEN BETTER, some are made in China :laughing::cool2:

Funny you point out the ones made in Korea. The quality issues I spoke of when I shopped, seemed to be concentrated to the ones built elwhare. With that said why buy a TYM with Mahindra badges at a premium when you could simply buy a TYM and save money?

 

[bridge4]

Kioti is not offshoot of Kubota.look similar but not related

That is good to know, but my point stands since people are talking about how well made S.K. tractors are (again not arguing that).

 

[bridge4]

Funny you point out the ones made in Korea. The quality issues I spoke of when I shopped, seemed to be concentrated to the ones built elwhare. With that said why buy a TYM with Mahindra badges at a premium when you could simply buy a TYM and save money?

I mentioned China too. I don't think mine is a Korean one.


As for the TYM, honestly I wouldn't have been against it, there just aren't any dealers around here I don't think.

 

[paulfun9]

I mentioned China too. I don't think mine is a Korean one.


As for the TYM, honestly I wouldn't have been against it, there just aren't any dealers around here I don't think.

You said some are made in Penn. Penn what?
I know at one time century had a factory in Pennsylvania but that is long closed now. Think moved away.
The only thing I know about Mahindra in Penn. (if you mean Pennsylvania) is they have a final assembly of sorts in or near Bloomsburg but the are not made or built there. From what I understood was they get shipped in and prepped for transport to the dealerships there but it wasn’t at least at the time I talked with them really considered assembly.
Please enlighten me if this has changed. I haven’t been that way for a couple years so I haven’t talked with them for a good while now.

 

[MechanicalGuy]

Don't fall for any misinformation hype when these tractor manufacturers are putting together pieces of tractor shipped from overseas and saying they are "built here in the usa". That is a stretch. I'm glad that people here are employed doing the assembly job, but they aren't "built" here if the are merely assembled in a building out of a crate. That is purposefully misleading.

 

[bridge4]

You said some are made in Penn. Penn what?
I know at one time century had a factory in Pennsylvania but that is long closed now. Think moved away.
The only thing I know about Mahindra in Penn. (if you mean Pennsylvania) is they have a final assembly of sorts in or near Bloomsburg but the are not made or built there. From what I understood was they get shipped in and prepped for transport to the dealerships there but it wasn稚 at least at the time I talked with them really considered assembly.
Please enlighten me if this has changed. I haven稚 been that way for a couple years so I haven稚 talked with them for a good while now.

Yes you are correct, not made but assembled. Mine has a sticker that says "Assembled in Pennsylvania". I didn't ask my dealer what they had a hand in as far as final assembly, so I'm not sure how much was actually assembled. Maybe the Loader arms were just put on there?

Don't fall for any misinformation hype when these tractor manufacturers are putting together pieces of tractor shipped from overseas and saying they are "built here in the usa". That is a stretch. I'm glad that people here are employed doing the assembly job, but they aren't "built" here if the are merely assembled in a building out of a crate. That is purposefully misleading.

Yeah I know it wasn't built, I never said built, you guys are putting words in my mouth! Assembled, but yeah I admit that doesn't mean much, but it is at least a few people at work.



Again, I am not trying to say these things are the best ever made, I understand what I bought. I just think it isn't as bad as you guys think. And to be honest, I wouldn't have bought an old model one, I just feel like they've improved to a point that they decently reliable. When the warranty is up, will I keep it or sell it for something else? I don't know, that's a long ways away.

 

[jgedmond]

I own one of each. The 2011 Mahindra 3616 (36 engine hp, open station, shuttle shift) was made by Misubishi I believe. Certainly the engine was. After almost 9 years and 900 hours, I have had two out-of-the-ordinary repairs: the right front axle seal started leaking and I don't remember any trauma to that area and the glow plug controller issue that has been discussed here. Fixed both problems myself and do all maintenance myself. My only real complaint is the use of plastic parts for the grill area, around gear selector / fenders and the multi-piece hood with side panels. So the general verdict is mechanically sound, but fit / finish is a little poor.

The 2019 NX5010C (50 engine hp, cab, shuttle shift) only has 25 hours on it, so no comments on long-term quality. I did look at a new Mahindra (and Deere, Kubota, Massey) and chose Kioti. The fit / finish, ergonomics, features, option pricing, weight and lift capacities of Kioti far exceeded the others. Only time will tell if I made the right choice.

 

[tradosaurus]

I own one of each. The 2011 Mahindra 3616 (36 engine hp, open station, shuttle shift) was made by Misubishi I believe. Certainly the engine was. After almost 9 years and 900 hours, I have had two out-of-the-ordinary repairs: the right front axle seal started leaking and I don't remember any trauma to that area and the glow plug controller issue that has been discussed here. Fixed both problems myself and do all maintenance myself. My only real complaint is the use of plastic parts for the grill area, around gear selector / fenders and the multi-piece hood with side panels. So the general verdict is mechanically sound, but fit / finish is a little poor.

The 2019 NX5010C (50 engine hp, cab, shuttle shift) only has 25 hours on it, so no comments on long-term quality. I did look at a new Mahindra (and Deere, Kubota, Massey) and chose Kioti. The fit / finish, ergonomics, features, option pricing, weight and lift capacities of Kioti far exceeded the others. Only time will tell if I made the right choice.

I would be curious where the lift capacity for the Kioti is measured from the pin on the bucket and the height the capacity is measured? Also I would be curious where the hydraulic pressure set for the Kioti. I've heard of Kubota owners increasing their hydraulic pressure from 2350 psi to 2550 psi and gaining lifting capacity.

It remains to be seen if the Kioti front axle will withstand the increased lifting capacity if it truly is rated at the same distance as other brands.

I think you are exaggerating by saying "far exceeded". I would have loved to have looked at a Kioti but the nearest dealer was 2 1/2 hrs drive from me.

About the only thing on the CUT Kioti's I see that far exceeds is the seat.

 

[5030]

Kioti is not offshoot of Kubota.look similar but not related

Wrong.