Man! Mahindra is taking over the Ohio Power show!

[RickO]

You Mahindra guys will be happy to know, there is a LOT more RED at the Ohio power show this year than about any other color.
I didn't count them but there were a BUNCH of Mahindra's there this year. Last year there were only a small handful. They are serious aren't they?

I like their tractors a lot.

 

[fish_wisperer]

they didnt unveil any new subcompacts did they?

 

[kossetx]

Hmmm... maybe thats why the sent up 8% around here. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

 

[Chipperman]

fish_wisperer

I do not think there is any new products hear at the show from Mahindra.

One rep keeps saying that Mahindra will be rolling out by spring a number of new compacts including a 18hp compact, all from Mitsubishi plus a Chinese tractor from the Jingling factory they bought. He says the Mishu units will be from the same series that Cub is currently using for their 30+- hp tractor. And then I hear that another rep is saying that their will be no more new mitsu tractors but they will have a whole new line of compacts in 2007 from India. What is the real story or does anyone really know?
Happy Tractoring
Chipperman /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[YanmarFever]

I guess the cats outa the bag !!! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Its a 20hp. not 18

 

[daTeacha]

The factory rep I talked to in Columbus said they make the different series in 3 different places -- Korea, India, and Japan. He didn't mention China, unless I just lost it amongst all the stuff I tried to take in today.

He did say there is a new smaller series coming soon. FWIW, my FIL thought they were the best tractors we saw, and we hit all 4 buildings today. I asked him why, since I really respect this guys opinion about tractors given that he made his living farming for quite a few years. He said he couldn't really put his finger on it, but the thing (15 series with Mahindra loader) just seemed to be better than the others we looked at. This is a guy who bought an A/C WD-45 new and it, along with the 8N bought new, are both still in the family. He farmed a couple hundred acres, raised a lot of cows, chickens, hogs, and grain while supporting his family and putting two kids through college with the farm as the sole source of income. He knows tractors more or less instinctively, and Mahindra got his vote as the best tractor in the 20-30 hp range.

 

[Chipperman]

daTeacha
Thanks for the reply. As for </font><font color="blue" class="small">( they make the different series in 3 different places -- Korea, India, and Japan )</font> Mahindra only make tractors in India, the tractors made in Japan (15 series) are Mitsubishi and the tractors made in Korea (10 series) are TYM. Glad to hear your you had a god time at the show.
Happy Tractoring
Chipperman /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[RickO]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( they didnt unveil any new subcompacts did they? )</font>

I don't think so... they just brought a lot more stuff to the show.

 

[RickO]

You guys might find this interesting. I work with a lot of people from India and I asked a lady from India if she had ever heard of Mahindra. She said "OH, Yes they are considered the best tractor you can own in India". From that I gathered that they are the JD and Kubota's of india. India has a lot of agriculture and a lot of very talented engineers - Though I understand we taught them how to make the Mahindra with our engineers.

But people from India have a focus on quality and I understand that Mahindra tractors are one very quality tractor.

 

[DavesTractor]

I've been to India, including the tractor manufacturing plant in Mumbai and the Jeep plant as well. Very first class! Plus we got to look at some of the new Mahindra SUV's. You would think they were Japanese made, right down to fancy leather seats. Interesting, all of them had manual transmissions, not an auto to be found. All over India you see Mahindra tractors, Jeeps, SUV's, pickups, etc. They also own resorts. We went to one in Goa that was beautiful by any standard. Make no mistake, Mahindra is huge.

I believe, but haven't confirmed 100%, we will see the new 2815 and 3215 Mahindra models at the World AG Expo in Tulare California February 14-16. It is the largest farm equipment show in the world. Mahindra will be at M36. We should have a good cross section of tractors.

 

[DavesTractor]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( One rep keeps saying that Mahindra will be rolling out by spring a number of new compacts including a 18hp compact, all from Mitsubishi plus a Chinese tractor from the Jingling factory they bought. He says the Mishu units will be from the same series that Cub is currently using for their 30+- hp tractor. And then I hear that another rep is saying that their will be no more new mitsu tractors but they will have a whole new line of compacts in 2007 from India. What is the real story or does anyone really know?Happy Tractoring
Chipperman )</font>

Yes, people do know, but most that do know are ones trusted with such advance info and therefore don't talk about it openly until the products are announced. But as you are clearly aware, there are often more rumors than fact as we all pick up a little info here and there. Mahindra, and most other companies, is always looking forward to the future and has a number of new models in the pipeline. 3 new models will be out in the next few weeks. I only feel free in sharing this as we should have some at the World Ag Expo.

The aquisition of the Chinese company is old news, what effect that might have on the USA market has not yet been announced. Regarding the compacts from India, who knows, but if you take a look at the newest models from the Indian engineers (6520-7520) it is clear that they produce a world class tractor that is ergonomically correct, high quality, and a pleasure to operate. Could they do that in a smaller package? Surely they are able. Would they do it? I don't know. The current Mitsubishi series is wonderful and expanding, indicative of as long term relationship with Mitsubishi.

 

[daTeacha]

So what gets done at the plants here in the U.S.? Do they just bolt the wheels on like a Kubota dealer does or do they do something more involved? My local dealer said they have plants in Georgia and Texas, I believe.

Also, I was told by the rep I talked with that you can now get Ag tires on the 15 series, which my brochure does not confirm. He said I could just have my dealer order out a set of tires and rims and make the switch from the R4 tires on the tractor sitting on his lot. True or not, from your perspective?

Another thing, and I hope I'm remembering the right tractor here -- on the gear model they had sitting there, the shift gate had 1 and R aligned and synchronized, allowing pretty efficient shuttle shifting when working with the loader -- can you confirm or deny? Maybe that was on the small TYM I saw in among the Zetors with the JD engines that are going to be replaced by Cummins next year, or the Montana's that are made by Mahindra except the big ones with JD engines, or the Bransons that looked really well made but are too big for what I need and supposedly are made by TYM when they aren't busy making their own or Mahindras or maybe 8N Fords.

I feel like Horshack on "Welcome Back Cotter" -- I'm so confused!! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[DavesTractor]

daTeacha,

I'll try to answer some of your questions.

The tractors come into the USA in Georgia, Texas, and now at our place in California as well. They are in crates to maximize freight efficiency and minimize any freight damage. The final assembly varies a little per model, but basically the wheels/tires, seats, steering wheel, ROPS, three-point arms, some lights, batteries, etc., are installed here, plus the loader and backhoe if applicable.

Ag tires are available for the 15 series. We have some in stock, but most units in the west go out with R4 tires.

Yes, the reverse to first is a simple operation, but not quite as quick as a shuttle or HST in my opinion.

Branson is not made by TYM. Branson does build Cummin's A series engines.

Mahindra does not make tractors for anyone else, including Montana, but Mahindra does use TYM to build a few models that they market here as Mahindra. The model line from TYM has shrunk considerably as the Mitsubishi built 15 series has replaced all the under 35HP models. This is old data, but in 2004 I believe Mahindra consumed 70% of TYM's production worldwide. I suspect that isn't the case anymore, but I have no facts.

 

[LarryRB]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( daTeacha,

I'll try to answer some of your questions.

The tractors come into the USA in Georgia, Texas, and now at our place in California as well. They are in crates to maximize freight efficiency and minimize any freight damage. The final assembly )</font>


I believe a big part of this is not to minimize damage as much as it is, saving inport duties. These companies would pay ten times what they are paying now if tractor came in complete,,, Remember years ago a little Japanese pick up built on a car chassis paid mega dollars in import fees. They added a seat in the pick up bed, which changed the classification and saved quite a bit in tax,...