Manual vs Hydrostatic

[dieselfreak]

I went from gear to HST back to gear (well, Hydraulic shuttle) I prefer the hyd shuttle over the HST. The HST's loud whining noise got tiresome and gave me a headache (I use my tractor a lot) and I never felt like I was putting enough of the engine's power to the wheels. It always felt "softer" to me than a gear tractor. The ease of use & convenience of the HST was nice, but Kubota's hydraulic shuttle is real easy to use, too.

I'm doing a job with my backhoe and a buddy's L3130 HST and his feels weaker & noisy, too.

I agree. Test drove a new MF 1635, and I am amazed at how smooth the shuttle is. The whine of the hydro is enough to drive me nuts, and was listening to it drive by me.

Powershuttle is the way.

 

[FallbrookFarmer]

Thanks for the reply /information,
My inquiry is obviously due to the changes here. I sometimes read the horror stories about people dying in hospitals, like the one in the Sun two days ago,the guy who had to call the switchboard to get a drink of water
and was then refused by the nurse, and then passed on.
I always wondered why you would need private insurance, if you already had NHS. I guess some health plans are more "equal" than others

Don't know if your still out there, but a further question, if I might.
Is the charge for the private insurance(BUPA) deductable from your tax bill?
It would seem to me that if you were already paying for
"free" health care under the NHS, it only be fair for them to allow a deduction.

 

[Gizmo2]

Nope, I will never go back to gears but then again I will probably not buy another tractor either. I had my last tractor for 20 years sold it for $4,000.00 less then I paid for it new. The extra money for a HST spread out 20 years would literally be nothing at all or at least less than $100.00 per year. Resale on a smaller HST tractor I am sure is better than the same tractor with gears.

 

[dex3361]

Sorry to prolong the thread, but when I saw the reference to the '72 cub cadet it made me remember. Back in the '70s my dad used to sell the cub cadet law tractors with hydrostatic transmissions. He sold several to a manufacturing plant and they ran them around the clock towing parts wagons. I rebuilt all of the Kohler engines for them at least once, but I never once saw a hydro trans. failure.

The 129 that I have is on its second Kohler engine. When I repowered it I found a NOS 16 HP Kohler cast Iron set up for a Cub Cadet that bolted right up and it has about 10 years of use on it. That translates into about 1000 hours of use by me and the hydro is still strong.

 

[Builder]

I agree. Test drove a new MF 1635, and I am amazed at how smooth the shuttle is. The whine of the hydro is enough to drive me nuts, and was listening to it drive by me.

Powershuttle is the way.

I'm also in a HP class (>70) where Hydrostatic is unavailable (at least none that I know of, anyway). If I was back into an itty bitty tractor, I might go hydro, but you're right-powershuttles are SWEET.

My John Deere garden tractor is a hydrostatic and I like it a lot.

I think a lot of you guys mean gear shift tractors that have an actual unsynchronized gear shifter on the tranny hump between your legs. Yes, those are relics. The left hand hyd. reversers, shuttle shifts & powershifts aren't as fast as hydro, but aren't near as slow as the old fashioned gear jammers, either. :confused2:

 

[John Clark]

Do you prefer an automatic or manual transmission in your car or pickup?

If you prefer not to shift like 90% of the population do, then buy a hydrostatic.:thumbsup:

My two cents and you are being overcharged

 

[niemeyjt]

Manual in a car every time.

Hydro in a tractor every time.

What does that say?

J

 

[Gizmo2]

Manual in a car every time.

Hydro in a tractor every time.

What does that say?

J

Your Cool!

 

[RalphVa]

Last year we bought a 2010 VW Jetta TDI with 6 speed manual because we gave up on Mercedes ever bringing over a stick shift diesel. (They have a marvelous turbo diesel with 6 speed manual in their C class for the rest of the world.) Our Tacoma pickup and VW Cabrio are both 5 speed manual. Only time I EVER had an automatic car was when I was a senior in college and freshman in graduate program at Princeton. Had a Chrysler because it was all I could afford. Would have preferred to have a stick VW, but they were all about $1,000. The Chrysler was $425.

For my tractor, I'll take hydro. It is not the same as an automatic transmission but is MUCH better than the typical gear shift on tractors, most of which are VERY klutzy and hard to use. Not like the shifter on the Jetta, which is the best I've ever driven (incl. 3 sport cars, an Alfasud in Italy, Bimmer, etc.)

Ralph

 

[Builder]

Do you prefer an automatic or manual transmission in your car or pickup?

If you prefer not to shift like 90% of the population do, then buy a hydrostatic.:thumbsup:

My two cents and you are being overcharged

Get a GM truck with an Allison automatic. Works just like a medium duty automatic, but also have a manual shift mode so you can toggle through all 6 gears! :thumbsup: