Marijuana on the job

[ultrarunner]

I agree with you completely, if they were using recreational MJ. My concern is the use of CBD products that can cause false positives on tests and have everything to do with medicine and nothing to do with safety or job performance. Would you ask a guy to stop using his asthma inhaler also? Any other drugs he has to take for health?

We "drug" when we take a cup of coffee or anyone lights up a cigarette. It's all self medicating with drugs of some kind.
My coffee pot just dinged, time to go...

Sober at work. I think we can all agree on that.

Working in manufacturing Union Shop for a time I noticed the strict contrast... the Union Workers were held to high standard regarding sobriety on the job... yet management often wined and dined clients with the Martini Lunch...

Not all the world operates the same... Beer is actually provided Free of Charge for Lunch for BMW Union Auto Workers... Beer without limits... but accountability.

No one ever gave it a though when Auto Workers, Construction Workers, etc... have a beer at lunch... and often provided by the employer!

When I was building in Austria part of the budget included Beer... which I really questioned.

Then I was schooled that this is how it is done and "Required" with a much larger Beer budget in Summer!

 

[ConawayFarms]

I think the key will be drawing a line between off-site medical use and being impaired at work, just like we already do with strong pain meds or even alcohol. There’s a difference between having a prescription and showing up under the influence.

Also, more people are turning to things like cannabis oil for sleep or anxiety, and not to get high but to function better. In case it helps anyone researching this from a workplace or health angle, here’s the platform I check when I want a second opinion or product info on cannabis oil

 

[Mtsoxfan]

I think the key will be drawing a line between off-site medical use and being impaired at work, just like we already do with strong pain meds or even alcohol. There’s a difference between having a prescription and showing up under the influence.

Also, more people are turning to things like cannabis oil for sleep or anxiety, and not to get high but to function better.

I agree. While I think the prior post on coffee being a drug, technically yes. There is a difference between coffee and behavior/judgement/performance altering alcohol, pot, pain meds.
My thought is, if what legal drug you are doing negatively affects safety, performance, etc then you need to go home.
I hired an alcoholic as a chef. Always functioned as needed, but towards the end he started coming in drunk. I was walking behind him once at 6 am. He bounce off the wall several times, stumbling the whole way.
HR said I need to document, then councel, etc, but could not fire him. protected medical issue. All I could do is send him home, no pay for being a danger to himself or others.
He was a good guy. After we talked, he thought it best to move on.

 

[tradosaurus]

Working in manufacturing Union Shop for a time I noticed the strict contrast... the Union Workers were held to high standard regarding sobriety on the job... yet management often wined and dined clients with the Martini Lunch...

Not all the world operates the same... Beer is actually provided Free of Charge for Lunch for BMW Union Auto Workers... Beer without limits... but accountability.

No one ever gave it a though when Auto Workers, Construction Workers, etc... have a beer at lunch... and often provided by the employer!

When I was building in Austria part of the budget included Beer... which I really questioned.

Then I was schooled that this is how it is done and "Required" with a much larger Beer budget in Summer!

And we know now how bad quality has become over the past 40 yrs with the Big 3 as well as Mercedes and BMW.

 

[caver]

Speaking of employment did anyone see this viral video?

 

[5030]

The officer showed great restraint. Trespass is trespass. Until the US Government decrees weed as a legal drug, she and anyone else caught using it on the job can be detained and charged.


Don't know if Amascon is considered an 'industrial' setting but I do know that in an industrial setting, using illegal drugs of any kind are grounds for dismissal and I'm sure in her pre employment agreement, the use of illegal substances wile on the job are expressly prohibited.

They are here for sure. The outfit I retired from, it's in their pre-employment contract as well as a pre-employment drug screen and my ex-employer uses the hair pull to determine it, plus all employees are subject to random testing. I cannot remember how many times I was pulled for a random. Lots of times.. Got the afternoon off with pay or morning or whatever.

 

[D&D]

Speaking of employment did anyone see this viral video?

Think she blew her chances at the fulltime management opening?.

 

[caver]

.....but she's on the schedule.

 

[MossRoad]

I used to get employees in our production department that would come in drunk or high on their days off, insisting they were scheduled to work. Every time but one, you tell them, and they apologized and left (never mind they were inebriated). Once, a young guy came in drunk and started horsing around with other workers. Obviously drunk, not on the schedule, and rough horseplay. Someone was going to get hurt. So I told him he wasn't scheduled to work and he should probably leave. He says he wants to kick my ass and wanted to fight.

So, I told him I couldn't fight on the clock!

He left.

 

[lilranch2001]

I really do not understand the lack of just the most common sense abilities.

That and the entitlement mentality that some of these people have…..