Massey 35

[Imold]

Not sure if this is right place but I came across this Massey 35 for sale not to far from me and it looks like it would be a interesting project to buy maybe, I know nothing about Massey tractors except that I have a 1705 scut.

What do you folks think about this?

 

[jeff9366]

Massey Ferguson 35

1960 - 1965
Utility tractor
Previous model: Ferguson TO-35
Next model: Massey Ferguson 135

The gasoline engine was available after 1961.

Manufacturer: Massey Ferguson
Factory: Detroit, Michigan, USA
Original price (USD)
$2,529 (1963 )

Variants:
35: ag tractor
35 Utility: industrial
35 Turf: low-profile

Massey Ferguson 35 Engines:
Perkins 2.5L 3-cyl diesel
Continental 2.2L 4-cyl gasoline

Engine Detail:
Perkins 3.152
diesel
3-cylinder
liquid-cooled
152.7 ci [2.5 L]

Bore/Stroke: 3.60x5.00 inches [91 x 127 mm]
Compression: 17.4:1
Rated RPM: 2000
Firing order: 1-2-3
Starter volts: 12

Engine Detail:
Continental
gasoline
4-cylinder
liquid-cooled OHV
134 ci [2.2 L]
Bore/Stroke: 3.3125x3.875 inches [84 x 98 mm]
Compression: 6.6:1
Rated RPM: 2200
Idle RPM: 450-2250
Firing order: 1-3-4-2
Starter volts: 12
Oil capacity: 6 qts [5.7 L]
Oil change: 100 h
Coolant capacity: 10 qts [9.5 L]
Sparkplug: 18mm
Sparkplug gap: 0.025 inches [0.635 mm]
Intake valve clearance: 0.013 inches [0.330 mm] *
Exhaust valve clearance: 0.013 inches [0.330 mm] *

Plows: 3
Drawbar (tested): 32.13 hp [24.0 kW]
PTO (tested): 37.04 hp [27.6 kW]

Capacity:
Fuel: 13.9 gal [52.6 L]
Hydraulic system: 8 gal [30.3 L]

3-Point Hitch:
Rear Type: I

Power Take-off (PTO):
Rear PTO: transmission
two-stage clutch*
Rear RPM: ground/540 (1.375)
Engine RPM: 540@1700

Dimensions & Tires:
Wheelbase: 72 inches [182 cm]
Weight: 2982 to 3559 pounds
Front tire: 5.50-16
Rear tire: 10-28

35 Serial Numbers:
Location: Serial number plate on the dashboard of the Massey Ferguson 35.
1960: 204181
1961: 211071
1962: 222207
1963: 235123
1964: 247605

Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x2 2WD
Differential lock: rear optional
Steering: manual recirculating ball
Brakes: independent manual shoe/drum

Hydraulics:
Capacity: 8 gal [30.3 L]
Pressure: 2800 psi [193.1 bar]
Pump flow: 3.5 gpm [13.2 lpm]

Electrical:
Charging system: generator
Charging amps: 12

Battery:
Gas Number: 1
Diesel Number: 2
Gas Volts: 12
Diesel Volts: 6

Page information:
Last update: March 23, 2018
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[jeff9366]

Tractors have made an awful lot of progress in terms of ease-of-use and safety in the last fifty-five (55) years.
Manual steering on a 3,000 pound tractor gets old after ten minutes. No ROPS.

What use do you foresee for this machine?

 

[Roadworthy]

You have to evaluate how much time and money you want to put into the project and what you expect out of it. Is it to be a show tractor or a work tractor? The 35 was a pretty good unit but it improved and morphed over time. It was based on the Ferguson TE 20 and the TO 20, later upsized to the TO 35.

 

[Cougsfan]

They were good tractors in their day. The Perkins 3 cylinder diesel is a better engine that the Standard 23c diesel that my TO35 has. Both engine and chassis parts are readily available for this tractor. Manuals are available. They are quite easy to work on. If you are looking for a project, you could easily choose a far worse tractor than this. It is a good choice.

 

[shovelmike]

They are solidly built tractors, I have gotten 39 years of great service out of my TO35 with Continental gas engine. I have done a lot of bush hogging on rough terrain as well as plowing and discing.

 

[Agvg]

It's still sold new on some countries, it's probably one of the easiest tractor to own, you can buy all the parts dirt cheap, used parts everywhere, easy to work on. A servo kit is available if needed. The tractor without loader is not that heavy to steere.

 

[Imold]

Tractors have made an awful lot of progress in terms of ease-of-use and safety in the last fifty-five (55) years.
Manual steering on a 3,000 pound tractor gets old after ten minutes. No ROPS.

What use do you foresee for this machine?

It would be just a cleanup type of project not a total restoration but just cleaning it up and making it look nice, famous last words... not a restoration....I like the looks of the tractor and think it would be a good project if I could get one at a better price, this one was still available a few days ago, seems Everyone has Case, Farmall’s, McCormicks, 2n-8n and 9n fords so I want to do something different that you do not see a lot of around here and this has caught my eye.

 

[Imold]

Should add that there is also a lot of Green tractors in this area.

 

[Imold]

It's still sold new on some countries, it's probably one of the easiest tractor to own, you can buy all the parts dirt cheap, used parts everywhere, easy to work on. A servo kit is available if needed. The tractor without loader is not that heavy to steere.

This is good to know living in a rural area most items would be ordered and delivered either ups or fedex, I do not plan to put a loader on but maybe a disc,rake or something small like that for looks.

 

[Imold]

They are solidly built tractors, I have gotten 39 years of great service out of my TO35 with Continental gas engine. I have done a lot of bush hogging on rough terrain as well as plowing and discing.

Good to know.

 

[Imold]

Jeff I appreciate the info you posted up on the tractor.

Thanks,

 

[Imold]

They were good tractors in their day. The Perkins 3 cylinder diesel is a better engine that the Standard 23c diesel that my TO35 has. Both engine and chassis parts are readily available for this tractor. Manuals are available. They are quite easy to work on. If you are looking for a project, you could easily choose a far worse tractor than this. It is a good choice.

Something to keep in mind as I look.

 

[Imold]

Reason I am looking at a tractor project.
Being disabled I have a lot of issues now one is using my hands on smaller things like the Harley’s or Cars is getting harder for me to do being my fingers are numb and they lock up a lot and I can not bend my neck to much due to being fused and plated So I figured I would try something a bit bigger, all I have is time now being I am done with working a regular job.

 

[denchen]

When I was a lad, a lot of the small farmers around us had these tractors to work their small farms. 30 to 45 acres were about common. Some had the MF35, others had similar tractors. Ford Dexters and older Ford Majors, grey Fergusons, my dad preferred David Browns. There was also small IH and John Deeres for row work. The one tractor, no matter what type had to do all the work on the farm, The farms were as we called `arable`, meaning mixed crops from potatoes, wheat, barley, sugar beet, carrots peas, and various other crops the farmer thought he could make a profit on. The MF35 was known as a good little tractor, easy to use with minimum maintenance, and a good starter in winter. The only thing I can think of against them was that a few broke in half. They used to break near the clutch bell housing, saying that, some of the farmers were a bit cruel with them, FEL with weighted wheels and extra weights on the back, then mucking out the crew yard, was asking a bit too much. Yes a nice light game reliable little tractor without any fuss.

 

[Industrial Toys]

How worn is it? I saw a similar one at my mechanic that the guy paid about the same for. Now, twice that for motor and steering box work. And then, it will be worth about what he paid for on the open market.

 

[Cougsfan]

This is good to know living in a rural area most items would be ordered and delivered either ups or fedex, I do not plan to put a loader on but maybe a disc,rake or something small like that for looks.

Not putting a loader on sounds like a good idea to me. Tractors without power steering aren't all that great for having loaders. This kind of tractor works best for pulling stuff like a disc, harrow, etc.

How worn is it? I saw a similar one at my mechanic that the guy paid about the same for. Now, twice that for motor and steering box work. And then, it will be worth about what he paid for on the open market.

You are correct to a point. If it is a total pile of junk it isn't worth doing. But sometimes projects you do for the enjoyment of doing it don't always have to create a positive return on investment. Particularly if you plan to hang on to it after you are done. Fixing up an old tractor is seldom a wise financial decision. That doesn't mean it is a bad decision. I probably have $7k in my old TO35 over the last 30 years or so I have owned it. Probably didn't cost $2k new, and probably isn't worth much more than that now. I don't regret one dollar of that investment.

 

[Agvg]

How worn is it? I saw a similar one at my mechanic that the guy paid about the same for. Now, twice that for motor and steering box work. And then, it will be worth about what he paid for on the open market.

If you need to hire a mechanic to fix a old, worn tractor then you absolutely have made the wrong investment.

If I spend some hours fixing one of my old machines it's pure enjoyment, some waste all they're time on sports or television and at least I got something useful out of mye time in the garage.

 

[Imold]

i like it is a diesel and it seems to be in somewhat good condition for its age, don’t think it will sell to fast but with snow coming you never know. It is about a hour away from my home. I will keep my eye on it and if it is still available later I might make a offer on it after I look it over. Would be a fun project when I get my new shop built.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Hats off to guys that get into the nitty gritty. I am notorious for not finishing stuff, and the only thing worse than having an old worn out tractor is one sitting, split in your shop for five or so years. A friend got a free Gas 35, and that is EXACTLY the case there.