Maybe a Step 'Backwards', But Handy?

[MossRoad]

Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

I would leave the quick attach circuit alone and instead add an electric diverter valve and hoses so that the left/right movement of the joystick operates the dump/curl function in one position and operates the attachment function (plow left/right, 4-in-1 open/close or mini-hoe curl) in the secondary position. Several folks have done this already and it seems to be a pretty straight forward modification that adds real functionality to the machine. If I had more attachments than the plow, I would consider this mod. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[MossRoad]

Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

I would leave the quick attach circuit alone and instead add an electric diverter valve and hoses so that the left/right movement of the joystick operates the dump/curl function in one position and operates the attachment function (plow left/right, 4-in-1 open/close or mini-hoe curl) in the secondary position. Several folks have done this already and it seems to be a pretty straight forward modification that adds real functionality to the machine. If I had more attachments than the plow, I would consider this mod. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[Spiffy]

Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

Each to their own, but I am curious why the electric selector valves are commonly installed, yet installing a manual valve bank seems to scare everyone off? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I don't see much difference in the amount of plumbing required, but I might be missing something. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I know on CUTs the electric often makes sense for a grapple (so the switch can be mounted on the joystick, leaving 1 hand opperation); the same would be true of the PT, but when part of the frustration is disconnecting hoses, an electric selector won't solve that part of the problem.

 

[Spiffy]

Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

Each to their own, but I am curious why the electric selector valves are commonly installed, yet installing a manual valve bank seems to scare everyone off? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I don't see much difference in the amount of plumbing required, but I might be missing something. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

I know on CUTs the electric often makes sense for a grapple (so the switch can be mounted on the joystick, leaving 1 hand opperation); the same would be true of the PT, but when part of the frustration is disconnecting hoses, an electric selector won't solve that part of the problem.

 

[Marks481]

Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

The electric selector valve gives you another hydraulic circuit, which you can use instead of the aux circuit for the curl of the minihoe bucket or closing the 4n1 bucket. This means that you don't have to unconnect/reconnect the aux circuit from the quick attach plate whenever you use one of these attachments.

It doesn't solve the frustration of the hydraulic lock preventing the quick disconnects from plugging in, but that has only been a problem for me a couple of times at most.

 

[Marks481]

Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

The electric selector valve gives you another hydraulic circuit, which you can use instead of the aux circuit for the curl of the minihoe bucket or closing the 4n1 bucket. This means that you don't have to unconnect/reconnect the aux circuit from the quick attach plate whenever you use one of these attachments.

It doesn't solve the frustration of the hydraulic lock preventing the quick disconnects from plugging in, but that has only been a problem for me a couple of times at most.

 

[MossRoad]

Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

As said, the use of a powered implement currently requires the operator to touch four hydraulic connections when attaching or unattaching a powered implement. With the diverter valve, only two connections have to be touched. So instead of it taking 30 seconds to hook up an implement, it will now only take 15 seconds........ man, are we spoiled rotten or what??? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[MossRoad]

Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

As said, the use of a powered implement currently requires the operator to touch four hydraulic connections when attaching or unattaching a powered implement. With the diverter valve, only two connections have to be touched. So instead of it taking 30 seconds to hook up an implement, it will now only take 15 seconds........ man, are we spoiled rotten or what??? /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[BillCroasmun]

Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

Not sure what they cost but using a small electric actuator instead of hydraulics for the QA pins could leave the QA circuit available full time for attachments. This wouldn't require any additional valves, lines, etc. Just wiring up a switch and running wires out to the new actuator.

I could take pictures of the 180's QA setup if your still interested as well. I'm sure flipping the QA switcfh is more convenient but the manual way isn't all that bad. When I want to switch out my LMB I lift the arms up with the plate tilted forward and lean forward and unlock the pins from my seat. No getting off the tractor or anything. I'm only 5'5" so it's not even that I have a long reach. I do have to lean just enough to start to raise my seat up (when buckled) but it's one fluid motion. unfortuanely 2 of my three attachments require the PTO though so I have to get out of the seat when I go to connect them up. I guess I can only be so lazy. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

[BillCroasmun]

Re: Maybe a Step \'Backwards\', But Handy?

Not sure what they cost but using a small electric actuator instead of hydraulics for the QA pins could leave the QA circuit available full time for attachments. This wouldn't require any additional valves, lines, etc. Just wiring up a switch and running wires out to the new actuator.

I could take pictures of the 180's QA setup if your still interested as well. I'm sure flipping the QA switcfh is more convenient but the manual way isn't all that bad. When I want to switch out my LMB I lift the arms up with the plate tilted forward and lean forward and unlock the pins from my seat. No getting off the tractor or anything. I'm only 5'5" so it's not even that I have a long reach. I do have to lean just enough to start to raise my seat up (when buckled) but it's one fluid motion. unfortuanely 2 of my three attachments require the PTO though so I have to get out of the seat when I go to connect them up. I guess I can only be so lazy. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif