Medical costs

[ultrarunner]

This tread started about high medical costs, not about health insurance. Two different topics thats getting intertwined.

But since insurance costs has been brought in,
If medical costs werent outrageous, we wouldnt need insurance, or insurance would be much cheaper.

Also, health insurance should be available from anyone, just like car insurance. Shouldnt be tied to an employer.
The biggest obstacle is pre existing conditions. I cant get car insurance on a wrecked car and expect them to make it new, but we expect it wirh our health.

Health Care is arguably the most regulated consumer sector... multiple layers from all sides.

I have only been directly involved since 1991 but the increase in regulations spanning my tenure is enormous... and almost without exception increase the expense.

If providing Health Care was as profitable as many think we would not one hospital after another closing... not just isolated but Nationwide.

What I have also learned is the "Government" often does not hold itself the standards it imposes on the private sector...

Yet... with all this said many pay nothing for the finest care bar none...

I've posted before from my property management days where I had a 31 year old tenant and her 15 year old daughter who gave birth to a son with severe heart problems... this child received over a million dollars in care over 10 years with much at Stanford... the child is now in his 20's and doing great.... the family never paid one penny for care... including extended stays at no charge care of Ronald McDonald House...

It is not that Americans are not getting care...

 

[two_bit_score]

I guess it's not clear to me and don't label me with your BS. What did you mean by, "Dont take this as a personal insult but its the ABUSE, stupid.

That逞ｴ what people object to."

Were you just having a rant or did you have something else to say. Nobody wants abuse.

Wow you liberals have buried Bill Clinton so deep that you can not even recognize a reference to his ‘war room slogan’: it’s the economy stupid.

Having a conversation with a snowflake is more difficult than I thought.

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[buckeyefarmer]

Because it is cheaper in the long run to fund preventative care, rather than deal with a catastrophic illness. It's the insurance companies who came up with that. Don't like it? Don't go for checkups.

Jeezy peets, folks. It's the price we pay to live in a civilized society. You don't get to choose which war your taxes fund, and you don't get to choose who is covered by insurance and who isn't.

That's comparing apples to tanks.

Preventive care isnt whats costing taxpayers or insurance companies, it's the "i expect free health care because i ain't getting off my lazy azz" people.
The ones related to the "i expect free health care because i keep shooting my self up with illegal drugs" people.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

And to get back on topic, no one needs health insurance to receive health care. Lets make health care affordable, and those that choose to have health insurance, pay for their own.

Next i'll be paying for some deadbeat's car insurance and cell phone... Oh wait, i am.

 

[rustyshakelford]

And to get back on topic, no one needs health insurance to receive health care. Lets make health care affordable, and those that choose to have health insurance, pay for their own.

Next i'll be paying for some deadbeat's car insurance and cell phone... Oh wait, i am.

Haha. Exactly. Started shopping around for car insurance. For two vehicles, clean records and low mileage useage we were quoted around $300 per month. Thanks to the idiots that intentionally flooded their vehicles in the last two year with unprecedented rain events we all have to pay for their choices. Seriously 300 a month is outrageous. It was 170 for 3 trucks and a camper 3 years ago

Brett

 

[Luke'sScreenName]

The group psychology here is hilarious and frustrating. :confused3:

 

[PILOON]

While on the topic of prevention---
under the Canadian health care system tomorrow (here in Quebec) we get our FREE* flu shots.
The 'ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure' adage applies.

They do free flu shots but we have to pay for shingle shots.

* free fo very young or seniors and those that are primary care keepers for elderly. (balance pay)

 

[cqaigy2]

Wow you liberals have buried Bill Clinton so deep that you can not even recognize a reference to his ‘war room slogan’: it’s the economy stupid.

Having a conversation with a snowflake is more difficult than I thought.

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You wait till your parents find out you've been on the internet.

 

[cqaigy2]

And to get back on topic, no one needs health insurance to receive health care. Lets make health care affordable, and those that choose to have health insurance, pay for their own.

Next i'll be paying for some deadbeat's car insurance and cell phone... Oh wait, i am.

Lol, you're assuming the deadbeat has car insurance, we're still paying for when they plow into your car.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

No, i was refering to "no fault" insurance, for those that dont carry insurance.