Mid mount pto's

sqdqo · Jan 10, 2009

When did the major tractor manufacturers (john deere, kubota, new holland) start putting mid mounted pto's on their tractors? I am starting to look for a used 40-50hp fwd tractor for use with a front mounted snow blower.

RickB · Jan 10, 2009

New Holland TC35D's and TC40D's could be either factory fitted or field fitted with mid PTO. TC40D's can be fitted with a mid PTO but need major disassembly to install the intermediate drive gears. TC35DA, TC40DA, and TC45DA can be field fitted with Mid PTO.

PILOON · Jan 10, 2009

Is there a standard speed for mid PTO's?
Would it be 540?

Diamondpilot · Jan 10, 2009

The other option if you have rear remotes is to put on a hydraulic driven snow blower and make up hoses long enough to reach the rear remotes.

Chris

WilliamBos · Jan 10, 2009

PILOON said:
Is there a standard speed for mid PTO's?
Would it be 540?

mid-PTO speed is 2000 RPM.

kennyd · Jan 10, 2009

WilliamBos said:
mid-PTO speed is 2000 RPM.

2100 on JD's

RickB · Jan 10, 2009

kennyd said:
2100 on JD's

That's 'cause they immediately lug down 100RPM whenever an implement is engaged!

RickB · Jan 10, 2009

Diamondpilot said:
The other option if you have rear remotes is to put on a hydraulic driven snow blower and make up hoses long enough to reach the rear remotes.

Chris

Running a fully hydraulic snowblower from a CUT's onboard hydraulic system isn't a viable option. There simply isn't enough flow. Adding a completely dedicated system would be SPENDY, but possible.

Builder · Jan 10, 2009

Diamondpilot said:
The other option if you have rear remotes is to put on a hydraulic driven snow blower and make up hoses long enough to reach the rear remotes.

Chris

Blowers & brooms need a seperate reservoir and hydraulic system to work on a tractor that small. There's inadequate GPM to run one off the rear outlets.

PILOON · Jan 11, 2009

One method used is to install a 'reverser box' that is driven from the rear PTO along with a long supported shaft that is 'slung' inder the tractor.
I have seen a few home made units of this type in my area.
Also BERVAC had a factory made one.
My blower incorporated the Bervac unit, however I opted for rear usage for a number of reasons, mainly I wished to keep FEL usage as well as I have a front plow.
Yes I'll sell the reverser! PM me if interested.

foggy1111 · Jan 11, 2009

Seems like a lifetime ago....but back in the 50's we used to offer a front snowblower which was mounted on the customers front end loader. We had a "sprocket box" that attached to the rear pto and drove a shaft (tube) that went under the tractor (or sometimes over the rear axel). Normally had a hanger bearing mounted at the midway point. They worked fine when properly installed.....but some tractors could be an engineering feat.

The sprocket box was basically a larger half slip-fitted to a smaller half which was adjusted and held in place with threaded rod....with each 1/2 containing bearings and a sprocket that was connected with a length of roller chain. We handled from 30 to 100 HP tractors with this arrangement.

In those times many PTO shafts were not shielded.....I can still remember staying clear of the dreaded PTO shafting.