I did a quick look and did not see a thread about the missing jet. Anyone here have thoughts about what may have really happened? There are enough high powered satellites in the world to spot a DIY cup floating in the middle of the Pacific and nothing is being found. I'm starting to think it disappeared intentionally.
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k0ua
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Don't have a clue where it is, but I think something nefarious happened to it. The "transponder was shut down, and likely a deliberate act".
3 VHF radios and 2 HF radios on board, not counting the engine data transponders which some say sent data for up to 5 hours after the transponder quit transmissons. Of course the story keeps changing. I really don't know anything at this point.
LJH
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From the bits main stream media are supplying, it sure smacks of a hijacking to me. I keep hoping it will turn up somewhere with passengers & crew still breathing. Longshot, I know. 
westcliffe01
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The South African Airways passenger jet that went down in that region turned out to be an elaborate case of sabotage since it had on board plutonium and rocket fuel (contraband being acquired by agents of the SA government from China and Korea). As it turned out, the rocket fuel got configured as an incendiary device since the US gov and the UN were aware of both materials and that it was destined for SA which had embargoes at the time. Who exactly "modified" the rocket fuel to rig it to explode during the flight is not clear, but thats what happened with the loss of the crew and all passengers as a fire broke out and the cabin filled with smoke over the open ocean.
Western
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I have no idea, the "pro's" have no idea. BUT I know I don't have it!
EddieWalker
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I've been following the news and listening to the 777 pilots who have been commenting. It's hard to believe that the plane failed, so it's either the pilots, terrorists or somebody shot it down. My guess is that it's at the bottom of the ocean and either the pilot or co pilot are responsible.
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westcliffe01
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The loss of a simple thing like an air speed indicator has caused the heavies to crash. The margin between overspeed and stall at cruising altitude is very small. If one air speed indicator fails, the pilots often don't know if they should believe the second one.
Why the transponder was turned off but the military claims that they were tracking it on radar is a mystery. I would have thought that after 911 a fighter would have been sent up to investigate any such scenario, before one finds it plowing into the center of your city... I know that was done with a business jet (before 911) when the crew blacked out from lack of oxygen and did not respond to the FAA flight following. The fighter did a "top gun" stunt to look in the cockpit to see if any crew activity could be seen and they ended up following it to the ground after the tanks ran dry and it went into a shallow dive.
Why the transponder was turned off but the military claims that they were tracking it on radar is a mystery. I would have thought that after 911 a fighter would have been sent up to investigate any such scenario, before one finds it plowing into the center of your city... I know that was done with a business jet (before 911) when the crew blacked out from lack of oxygen and did not respond to the FAA flight following. The fighter did a "top gun" stunt to look in the cockpit to see if any crew activity could be seen and they ended up following it to the ground after the tanks ran dry and it went into a shallow dive.
mikehaugen
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But what if they do...
Western
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I think someone would be claiming victory in solving it then. No debris field is suspect, The engine maker was receiving info from the engines for almost 4 hrs after it went off radar? Probably sitting in a hanger in N Korea for all I know.
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My thoughts too, plane was hijacked, all systems disabled and plane is in a hanger somewhere, and all the people are kidnapped.
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My thoughts too, plane was hijacked, all systems disabled and plane is in a hanger somewhere, and all the people are kidnapped.
EddieWalker
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Just read a comment to one of the articles that suggested it landed at some Middle East location and is being loaded up with nuclear bombs. While I doubt that, it does lead to the theory that a very well thought out and organized group of terrorist could get a jet and use it as a pretty big bomb and by flying it into a city.
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k0ua
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I really hope that is just some crackpot theory.
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Me too, with bomb technologies these days much, much more that the city would be gone.
If you only wanted to use a large plane as a carrying device for bombs, be they nuclear or otherwise, would it really make sense to hijack one? Could you not get another commercial-size airplane from another non-descript source? I guess it could be cheaper to hijack one, but if you're into making nuclear bombs, you've probably got enough back-alley shenanigans going on to pay for that stuff that you could also get a black market plane..
...who knows?
...who knows?
Eddie, I said almost the exact same thing to my wife last night. I think it has been "stolen" If a terrorist organization actually buys a 777, it's going to make governments take notice and I don't think selling one would go un noticed in the world. Stealing one and loading it with nuclear material to do a Japanese zero mission somewhere would trump 911 on many levels. I hope I'm wrong.
Another thought, no cell phone texts or calls from more than 250 passengers before it disappeared. If it were traditionally hijacked ..someone would have sent a text. Unless the passengers already planned on a 5/7 hour flight over the ocean. If the flight landed somewhere else at night, it's possible passengers would not know it in the dark. But no communication from that many possible outlets is really odd
71bronco
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Will your phone work in the middle of the ocean with no cell towers?
Jeff
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Idk, if you send a txt and there is no immediate service, will it go through later when there is service somewhere ?
Western
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Some bearing on phones in this situation.
Why passenger cellphones can't help locate missing Malaysian air jet | Fox News
Why passenger cellphones can't help locate missing Malaysian air jet | Fox News
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