Alco, I thought about identifying the gate some way. It's funny how all gates look the same when up.
Egon, I thought about going vert. but dow in the lot there are 7 more gates and I don't know about how practical it would be.
MikePa, Your right a picture being worth a 1000 words. I might try that approach. Thanks for the picture and all the trouble.
Wroughtn harv, The eye bolt crossed my mind as that I have some telephone pole hardware from the lot post I have been planting. They were locked and chained and they got the lock in a bind and beat it off. Should have sprung for the larger lock but couldn't fin same keyyed locks at the time.
Dmcarty, I may add those no matter what route I choose.
OZARKER, if I had a drill press that would be a good way to go.
violent replies, I thought of those all that morning. I an suprised that no one mentioned an electrical charge in some gross amount.
Thanks for all the ideas and pictures, I know its been said but this is a great place.
Patrick