MODIFY BRUSH HOG SOME MORE

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patrick_g said:
I have the required credentials to manage the project team to design,develop, and test a prototype. Let me know when you want to start salary negotiations.

Pat


From my prior post

Was expecting a full independently reactive, electro-hydraulic, 4 point mounted, laser interferometry based system able to maintain an exact cutting height (+/- 1 micron) no matter what the tractor did, ran over or how fast it was traveling --> with bluetooth GPS feedback to a heads up display driver information system that displays a calculated optimum path for minimum deck disturbance with maximum mowing productivity.



You can use that to define your statement of work.....

Once you deliver a working prototype to all members of TBN, you will be able to stop by anywhere and be welcome for a cold beer and a tractor ride.

What more could you want?

jb
 
   / MODIFY BRUSH HOG SOME MORE #72  
John, How about a rootbeer float? Don't want any alcohol if I am going to operate it.

Your requirements couldn't be satisfied with the cumulative to date since inception NASA budget. But I'm wiling to give it a try for significantly less, just a small fraction of the NASA budget if you could relax your requirements a bit in the micron tolerance and number of delivered prototypes areas.

It would be significantly cheaper to smooth all land currently owned by anyone ever posting on TBN to within a few inches per yard (or say 7-10 cm per meter for our Canadian and overseas friends.)

If the goal is to be able to have a brush hog closely follow the variations in terrain it is as valid to smooth the ground as to build a device to track uneven ground. In this case it would be more economical to smooth the ground better than the average putting green (on the PGA tour) than to try to meet your specs with a brush hog. You could spent several hundreds of thousands just trying to get the vibration within your stated tolerances much less dynamically follow the terrain.

"follow the terrain" That reminded me of the last thing to go through the mind of a pilot when his TAR (Terrain Avoidance Radar) system fails.

The answer is, "The tail of his aircraft!" Sorry, it must be the subconscious effects of writing this while wearing one of my old flight suits. No, I didn't get offered a flying boondoggle, I am wearing it to spray for scorpions as it has been tooooo long sine I last sprayed and we had one run across the bed room floor last night. Its time for CYPERMETHRIN MAN!!! (3-4 months coverage NOT 6-8!!!, oops)

Ohh, and by the way... it will still not fly no matter what the conveyor does so long as it stays well under relativistic velocities (less than 0.9C.)

Pat
 
   / MODIFY BRUSH HOG SOME MORE #73  
john_bud said:
From my prior post

Was expecting a full independently reactive, electro-hydraulic, 4 point mounted, laser interferometry based system able to maintain an exact cutting height (+/- 1 micron) no matter what the tractor did, ran over or how fast it was traveling --> with bluetooth GPS feedback to a heads up display driver information system that displays a calculated optimum path for minimum deck disturbance with maximum mowing productivity.



You can use that to define your statement of work.....

Once you deliver a working prototype to all members of TBN, you will be able to stop by anywhere and be welcome for a cold beer and a tractor ride.

What more could you want?

jb

You will be able to pickup some old Tomahawk Cruise Missle Guidance Systems from military surplus which will do what you want...The only downside is the speed your Tractor will have to cover the mapped ground...about 880 kilometers/hour...:D
 
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  • Thread Starter
#74  
Well it's been over a month since I've posted about this project.
It's not dead but had to take a back seat while I got all that log home stuff done. So I wanted to update you. I've been busy at home (real work) too. But I got back on the project and got a few more things and some little details done.

I got the rest of the leveling frame welded together and the hydraulic mounts too. I had to clamp it all together for welding and keep all the pivot mounts in line. Here is the set up, partially welded. I made the wheel bushing for the new (2nd) wheel and those brackets to mount to the trailing end. Here are a couple photos with both wheels in. The dual trailing wheels sit 34" apart.



I used the old wheel bearing and cut the frame to fit my new frame and then made the new side to match. I've still got a lot of weld grinding and cleaning to do before it's ready for primer and final coat of red paint. I will most likely put it all together up at camp.
 
   / MODIFY BRUSH HOG SOME MORE #75  
Evenin Rob,
Oh tell me you arent clamping your good 1-2-3 blocks inside that weldment ! ;) Ok just kidding, very nice so far ! This is going to have GPS right ? :)
 
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  • Thread Starter
#76  
Hahaha you are nuts Scotty,
Those are my Chinese 1.001 x 2.002 x 3.003 blocks. LOL .. Yeah, I had to use them for something!

Here is some more updates.
Since I am using hardened leader pins and bushings for the pivots, I had to make sure they could be greased properly due to the close fit between them. I didn't want them to rust shut. With a little warpage from all that welding, they tightened up somewhat too. But that is a good thing considering the linkage is like a giant chain link and I really wanted it as tight as possible. I don't think the 2-1/2" diameter hydraulic cylinder will care how tight it is.

Surprisingly, making those pins and bushings turned out harder than I thought because they were 60RC on the outside and 38Rc on the inside. I had to cut the pins off using my surface grinder with an 8" abrasive wheel that is 1/32" (.032") thick. It sliced the 1-1/4" diameter hardened leader pins like butter. I made 4 pins out of 1-1/4" diameter and 4 out of 1" diameter. Next was to drill the grease hole from one end and then open up to 11/32" and run in a 1/8 pipe tap reamer to help against snapping a tap off in there. Then tap.



The next photos show that I had to grind 2 flats on the pins so the grease would flow end to end. Then had to drill side holes from each flat to the middle hole. I had to grind through the case hardened surface so I could use high speed drills to drill the inner steel which is only about 38RC hardness. Still hard to drill but I took my time and used cutting oil. I sharpened my drill bit with way more angle than the normal 118 degrees (like 140 degrees) and less relief. I drilled half the length for the main hole and then from each flat to connect the path.

So here they are with the Zerk fittings installed. I recessed them so they can't be broken off.
Cool huh?

 
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  • Thread Starter
#77  
Finally, I got to grind the retainer ring slots on the ends. These pins will use circlip retainer rings to hold the pins in. I put on a 1/16" wide cut off wheel and plunged down the depth of the groove and rotated the pin in my whirly gig. Took it all in one pass. So here they are with the clips on. I decided not to lubricate the hydraulic cylinder pins. If you look closely, you can see grease coming out each side hole. and on this last photo, I pushed a bushing over the pin to show how the flat would work, distributing the grease over the length of the pin so the entire inner surface of the bushing gets coated when it rotates.



Still got to cut more of those 2" square tubes in half (length ways) to make the body more rigid on the rotary cutter itself, but I'll get to that later. That takes like forever to do one slit. I also need to assemble the DPOCV hard line to the hydraulic cylinder too. So there is still work left before I can get it to camp. Once I get up there and weld the supports and this wheel assembly onto the rotary cutter, I will have to scrounge for hydraulic hoses, fittings and QD's. And also make the brackets and install hose clamps for the lines.

I am keeping to my original plans of using as much spare/ scrap stuff I have lying around to keep this a super low budget mod. That's why all this extra machining and stuff. ;)
Lot's of work left, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel ... and it ain't no train. :)
So did you guys forget about my little project?
 
   / MODIFY BRUSH HOG SOME MORE #78  
This sure has been an interesting read. I try to follow your DIY projects, because they are so informative.

In regards to CAD programs, I have used Autosketch 2.0 (made by the creators of Autocad) for several years. I like it very much, but now that i have a new 'puter, I can't use it (bummer). It has probably 75% of Autocads many features, but I think that it may be easier to use than Autocad. I recently bought Vistacad by Punch. It is billed as easy to learn, but thus far, I am not very impressed with the program. Admittedly, I have barely even tried to learn it, but when my lines don't connect at the endpoints, something is wrong. Maybe I will change my mind about it, but I think it was just a waste of money ($89.99 + tax). I am seriously thinking of getting Autocad LT, but the $800.00 price is a bitter pill to swallow. I do have a newer version of Autosketch (release 8.0 I believe) but it just didn't work like the older version, and I don't know if it is compatible with Windows Vista.


Keep up the great work.
Regards, Colin
 
   / MODIFY BRUSH HOG SOME MORE #79  
3RRL said:
So did you guys forget about my little project?

Who could forget the $6K mod to a $1.5K RC.:eek:
(It would be $8K with dealer markup in my area);)
 
   / MODIFY BRUSH HOG SOME MORE #80  
Nope Rob, We did not forget. We were just patiently waiting for you to get all your honey-do's done so you could get on with the machining/fabrication lesson.
:D
Mike
 

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