Monsanto

[Industrial Toys]

Not to be a Monsatans advocate here, but with eight billion humans on the planet, maybe someone needs to cull the herd!

We rent our farm to two farmers. One Organic and the other a Cash Cropper. The engineerd crops always look so much nicer! The Organic stuff, just a bunch of nasty weeds and unfavourable yields!

 

[Garycw]

Not to be a Monsatans advocate here, but with eight billion humans on the planet, maybe someone needs to cull the herd! We rent our farm to two farmers. One Organic and the other a Cash Cropper. The engineerd crops always look so much nicer! The Organic stuff, just a bunch of nasty weeds and unfavourable yields!

Maybe you'll be next!? Are you also a politician?Sent from the mountains

 

[Jstpssng]

Not to be a Monsatans advocate here, but with eight billion humans on the planet, maybe someone needs to cull the herd!

We rent our farm to two farmers. One Organic and the other a Cash Cropper. The engineerd crops always look so much nicer! The Organic stuff, just a bunch of nasty weeds and unfavourable yields!

I understand that argument yet don't completely agree with it. How much harm are we doing? At some point we're going to exceed the carrying capacity of the planet; or our quality of life is going to suffer... especially in this country where we're fond of our open spaces. I agree that organic gardening is more work than many- including me- want to put into it, but don't base all of your opinions on one experience.

Everytime one of these discussions starts though, I'm reminded of the book Thirty Acres written in 1938.Thirty Acres by Ringuet | PenguinRandomHouse.com
It seems like this debate has been going on for decades.

 

[Industrial Toys]

A person could drive themselves crazy thinking about the harm we do. This time of year, there are many little toads in the grass and it bothers me to run them over with the mowers. I try to watch out for them as best as I can.

One doc I saw made it quite clear. Agriculture is a very unnatural process.

As far as going next. There does happen to be a strange sore in my mouth that isn't heallng! Me and my "greatest generaton" have done our darndest to wreck the place, so maybe it's not a bad time to just leave! Just walk away.

 

[davepg1]

Do some research for yourself and see that Monsanto donates millions of dollars to BOTH political parties in this country to keep the politicians under control. We have been using plastic mulch in raised rows for 3 years now and the taste of our produce is totally different than the next door farm who used Roundup. A state representative was at a local fair and I cornered her on this exact subject which she commented she had no knowledge of a problem with Monsanto products, but it is an on-going investigation. (typical politics). I then asked how much campaign donation money she accepted from them and she got pretty evasive. Conversation was ended right then and there.

 

[davesl708]

Not to be a Monsatans advocate here, but with eight billion humans on the planet, maybe someone needs to cull the herd!

We rent our farm to two farmers. One Organic and the other a Cash Cropper. The engineerd crops always look so much nicer! The Organic stuff, just a bunch of nasty weeds and unfavourable yields!

The gene pool could use some chlorine.
Nature will adjust eventually.

 

[DFB]

The California Environmental Agency has announced its intentions to have the active ingredient of Roundup glyphosate labelled as an agent known to the state to cause cancer.

In the upcoming months, it will be added to a list of chemicals known to cause cancer, birth defects, and other reproductive harm under the action of Proposition 65. Once this happens, businesses will have to provide clear and reasonable warnings before exposing people to Roundup (and other glyphosate products).




https://www.morningagclips.com/cali...r&utm_term=newsletteredition&utm_medium=email

 

[arrow]

The kicker of this is that all we try to do for crop output is adjusted for by Mother Nature. Bugs and weeds "learn" our techniques and eventually become resistant to our chemicals. We then come out with new chemicals until they become useless. While we ever change our chemicals at a molecular level, what is this manipulation to our food chain and soils doing to us? It's difficult for me to conceive that the answer to this is "nothing at all." Believe it or not, I personally don't think the FDA is out there always protecting us especially when former captains of the chemical industry become their new heads.

 

[davesl708]

The California Environmental Agency has announced its intentions to have the active ingredient of Roundup glyphosate labelled as an agent known to the state to cause cancer.

In the upcoming months, it will be added to a list of chemicals known to cause cancer, birth defects, and other reproductive harm under the action of Proposition 65. Once this happens, businesses will have to provide clear and reasonable warnings before exposing people to Roundup (and other glyphosate products).




https://www.morningagclips.com/cali...r&utm_term=newsletteredition&utm_medium=email

The kicker is does the CEA have proof it causes cancer or does someone there just not like it. Government does not have the best track record on honesty.
Too many have personal agendas they use their positions to impose on others.

 

[ruffdog]

You can bet the big wigs don't eat and drink the same stuff as the peasants do.

 

[MikePA]

You can bet the big wigs don't eat and drink the same stuff as the peasants do.

Darn right. Bigwigs have their own municipal water system or get water from a different ground water source.

 

[murphy1244]

Darn right. Bigwigs have their own municipal water system or get water from a different ground water source.

I thought so...:thumbsup:

 

[MikePA]

...and bigwigs get their own rain and sunshine.

 

[davesl708]

...and bigwigs get their own rain and sunshine.

That must be what all that space travel is about.

 

[ruffdog]

Just got done watching the OP's first video....thanks. Three points: #1, GM genes does not mean more food. It is a means of controlling ALL seed. #2, Farmers can now send the bill to the GMO company for removal of their GM plants. #3, the Terminator gene makes the current years seeds infertile, that forces farmers to buy new seed every year. What if ALL the seed supplies world wide is contaminated with this gene? What will happen to the worlds food supply when all the seeds stop growing?

 

[Jstpssng]

Just got done watching the OP's first video....thanks. Three points: #1, GM genes does not mean more food. It is a means of controlling ALL seed. #2, Farmers can now send the bill to the GMO company for removal of their GM plants. #3, the Terminator gene makes the current years seeds infertile, that forces farmers to buy new seed every year. What if ALL the seed supplies world wide is contaminated with this gene? What will happen to the worlds food supply when all the seeds stop growing?

I haven't seen the video yet, hard to do on this phone with minimal service. Yet you bring up my biggest concerns, and why I say that GMO's are a threat to the food supply.

You can bet the big wigs don't eat and drink the same stuff as the peasants do.

Back in the late '80's I was spraying herbicides with a backpack mist blower. It wasn't uncommon to have a top guy or even the owner working next to you. One VP I worked with for a week would eat every strawberry he saw when we took a break... and it wasn't because he was excessively fond of them.


Everything can be useful in moderation, and even weeds have their purpose. In 2011 I started reclaiming an old field, they came in with a harvester and cut all of the trees, then pulled the stumps with an excavator and piled them up- the remaining topsoil was about 15" deep but very hard. The first couple of years I had an abundance of daisies, which have big root balls and started loosening the soil. As I keep working it other weeds are taking over, and my soil seems to be getting better. Eventually I plan to do something with the entire 2 1/2 acres, right now I'm just working small areas and expanding them. It's pretty amazing how much the weeds have done though, especially in the places that I've been turning. Now I'm starting to lay plastic before transplanting, and I just downloaded plans to make a sterilizer to do the soils for my root crops.

 

[ruffdog]

The 2nd video is very enlightening to say the least. What part of the worlds governments have not been touched by this company? You think who owns the weapons or oil controls the world? Think again. How much power do you think they will have when they control ALL the seeds of the world?

 

[SPYDERLK]

Back in the late '80's I was spraying herbicides with a backpack mist blower. It wasn't uncommon to have a top guy or even the owner working next to you. One VP I worked with for a week would eat every strawberry he saw when we took a break... and it wasn't because he was excessively fond of them.

,,,,,,,,,,I give up. Why was he eating them?

 

[Garycw]

I guess things taste better when they're free?
Strawberries are notorious for having lots of chemicals. Peaches too? My peach tree was never sprayed and never had a pest problem with them

 

[Jstpssng]

,,,,,,,,,,I give up. Why was he eating them?

He just wanted to show that there was no harm in eating them, although we had just sprayed herbicides on them.

Going back to the question of what bigwigs eat...