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[kubotaman68]

Broke my own rule and borrowed my cousins case skid steer to unload a truck on a remote site my stuff was 80 miles away his was 5 mins away . Well she ate a valve I believe was using it for 10 mins let it run for 20 mins before getting in it talking to driver . AND then it started rapping and smoking
YIPPEE more expenses /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif I am not taking it back broke . Anyone know if my diagnosis is correct ? It was running about 3/4 throttle it started rapping intermittantly and by the time I got it shut off it was constant

 

[Marlowe]

There are so many things that could cause a noise I wouldn't put much money on it being a valve, even though it could be. My little tractor did that once. Convinced me it was toasted. I found out it was caused by hydraulic oil leaking into the crankcase. The excessive oil level caused a nasty knocking noise combined with a lot of smoke. I changed the oil, fixed the leak and it ran good as new.

Good luck with yours.

Tom

 

[scott_vt]

Kubotaman,
That is one really bad day /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif I feel your pain! Many, many years ago when I first became a homeowner, I borrowed my neighbors splitting maul to split some wood. The very first swing, I overshot the log and took the head clear off /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Went down to the hardware store and promptly bought two brand new mauls. It was an inexpensive lesson to learn /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

On your problem, a bit more complicated, Im not sure that I share your view on the valve. But in any event good luck with the outcome!

scotty

 

[kubotaman68]

well my cousin called they took the pan off looks like a rod bearing $$$$$$$$$ un known /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Do you know for an absolute fact it's the engine? Possibly a hydraulic pump knocking? Could be a hundred things, although it could very well be that valve you're talking about.

But I'm afraid you're going to be spending a few pesos anyway.

 

[kubotaman68]

yes its definitely the engine they took the valve covers off all the valves are moving , took the pan off his hired guy is very mechanical he is leaning toward rod bearing or piston. but i agree on the bueno peso's /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

 

[scott_vt]

I was thinkin rod bearing /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif They will have to see how bad the crank journal is, if its scored to any degree they will have to pull it and grind /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Gotta grind all the rod journals to do it right IMHO, and then get new bearings.

Could have been worse! You suck a valve and you got real problems then /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

scotty

 

[kubotaman68]

You know in the world of shoulda coulda woulda, i shoulda just told the driver to drop it off at his site and I coulda picked it up later. I woulda been able to avoid this whole mess , and woulda saved a few hundred bucks /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

 

[BigDamnFool]

Kman,

I wish I had relatives like you. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif Mine tend to return things, (If they even do that ), in whatever condition they were in when they last used them. And just because it didn't work when I went to use it, doesn't mean they broke it.

Also, thanks for the post on the piano move. I will definitely be using a piano mover in 3 weeks. Especially with the afformentioned family members helping me to move the rest of my stuff.

Tiny

 

[KubotainNH]

Sounds like it was an impending failure no matter who was using it so maybe you should help fix it not flip the whole bill for 30 mins of work.

 

[Marlowe]

This has got me wondering a bit about what is considered right and wrong when it comes to borrowing stuff, and then it breaks.

A buddy of mine told me that amongst his group of friends and family lots of borrowing of major equipment goes on. They all have an understanding. If the failure is something you tore up, you fix it. If the failure is something that would have broken anyway, maybe not. A major engine failure may be one of those things that is not the fault of the guy who uses it for just a few minutes. The exceptions would be like running the engine without oil or coolant.

I don't know. Any thought's? I'm the kind of guy who borrows very sparingly, then I fix whatever breaks when I have it.

 

[rox]

I agree with you. If Kubota... was not abusing the machine, and he was jsut unlucky enough that the dang thing broke in the short time he used it, and the malfunction was not do to abuse, I would be gritting my teeth, and not just out there offering to fix it up brand new.

To me no different than borrowing my dad or sisters car. If the motor went on the car when I was driving for 30 minutes doing the city speed limit, I can't say as I would offer to fix their motor.

Now if the shoe was on the other fault and it was my car, I wouldn't expect my friends/family to pay to fix my car when it was jsut being used normally. I would think your cousin would talk to you about this and not automatically expect you to foot the bill on this.

 

[kubotaman68]

Update ! The rod bearings on #4 spun damaged crank So motor is out having crank turned and new rod put in . Mechanics fairly sure it will be "good enough" for casual use which is its job description. We are splitting the bill, I could weasel my way out of it sinceits old etc but the bottom line is i can't just say oh well its old so, thats where she stands right now /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[scott_vt]

Kubotaman,
Glad to hear that you have an agreement, that doesnt sound too bad!

scotty

 

[kubotaman68]

He is my cousin and i know he would not just drop a broken piece back off to me so we will just do it. I am getting so I just treat it like a bandaid JUST RIP IT OFF !!! ARGH !!!!! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[KubotainNH]

I'm glad you came to an understanding. Sounds fair enough to me as long as you are not flipping the entire bill. It will make you think twice on borrowing something next time though.