Movin South... Silly yankee questions...

   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #21  
I have lived in the 'deep south' all my life (55 years) and I can't see living anywhere else in the world. I'm about 50 miles from the Gulf coast. Yes, we have snakes, mosquitoes, hurricanes, brutal heat in the summer, but I still love it.

Until recently, with the drop in oil prices, we had a very good economy.

As far as nasty critters, I don't think you need to worry about that too much. I don't recall ever hearing of a pet getting bit by a snake or anything like that.

My neighbors lab got bitten on the nose by a water moccasin earlier this year. Her nose looked like a tennis ball for a while, but she survived and appears to be no worse for the wear. It did cost the neighbor a fair amount of $$$ however. Antivenom is not cheap. Give the "wild child" demeanor or this dog, I fear that she did not learn her lesson and will be visiting the vet again the next time a snake is on the yard.
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #22  
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #23  
We are likely going to be moving to the Miss, Louisiana, Ark. area. Some questions... Our Sheppard has never encountered a poisonous snake. Is there any danger to him, or will he have the instinct to be more cautious....

I put my hunting boots in the garage for long periods. Is there a danger of critters crawling in there? Anything else we should know about? Thanks

That's a lot of area you are considering. What are you looking for? some of it is all swampy, a lot of it is heavy timber and rather flat, and a little bit of it is hilly to mountainous. In my area of East Texas, we are supposed to have rattle snakes, but I've never seen one. I see cotton mouths and copper heads every year. This year was a record for cotton mouths. I think we killed half a dozen and saw at least twice that many on our 60 acres. I killed two copper heads and saw one that got away. My dogs killed several rat snakes in the yard. They come around the house because we have feeders out, livestock and chickens, which all add up to lots of mice. We poison as many mice as we can and we have cats for as long as they can survive the coyotes. Some cats are better then others at killing mice, but nothing works better then constantly putting out poison. If you can keep the mice down, you will have fewer snakes. In my experience, a dog doesn't know the difference between a poisonous snake and a non poisonous one, so it's very likely that it will get bit eventually. We have clinics that are open 24/7 to deal with this. I've been twice for cats, but never one of my dogs. Once bit, they swell up quickly and wont walk on the leg that is bit. No experience with a face bit. The vets have all the stuff to treat a bite and if you get there quickly enough, it's not a big deal. For some reason, people that I know who have been bit seem to suffer more then pets.

I've never found anything in my outdoor boots and shoes. I always check them, but that's just me being scared of the unknown and an active imagination.

What you need to learn to fear and never underestimate are fire ants. NEVER walk in the grass barefoot. Never stand still without making sure what you are standing on. Keep plenty of anti itch cream on hand while you learn these lessons!!! I prefer Gold Bond Maximine Relief. Get some, you will need it.

The other thing to be VERY AFRAID of are red wasps. Also called mahogany wasps. They love the heat and living in the eaves of houses. They are very territorial and will attack for no reason, making too much noise or because they don't like you. Usually you will get one warning. It will buzz your ears. If you ever have a wasp of any kind buzz your ears, wave your arms frantically all over and run!!!!!! The next time you will get hit, and it's like somebody used a baseball bat on your head. Back of the head is the most common, but once I got it in my face, which was the worse one ever. Nothing will ease the pain, it will be a fay of misery unlike any other sting out there. All other wasps, hornets and bees are here and they will get you too if you anger them, but nothing like the red wasp. He is king!!!!

Learn what poison ivy looks like. It mostly likes shade. Three leaves grouped together. It can be red at times, but usually it's a nice shade of green. Even dead, it will get you, so always wash your hands with lots of soap if you pick up anything.

During the heat of summer, July to mid September, plan your day so you can avoid being outside in the afternoon. Heat stroke is real, and when it happens, most people don't realize it. All of a sudden, you forget things, don't know why are are doing something, or why nothing is making any sense to you. I've seen it happen too many times.
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #25  
As for the heat, I'll take that over snow any time. I have yet to have to shovel any "heat" out of my drive way

Amen brother. We get the heat, we get the snakes, and we get the snow too.. I hate the snow the worst.
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #26  
Well, since it seems you are coming from Volney, New York I decided to look it up.
I was a little surprised to see you are only a few miles from Fulton.

I live in Fulton (Mississippi, that is)

We are likely going to be moving to the Miss, Louisiana, Ark. area. Some questions... Our Sheppard has never encountered a poisonous snake. Is there any danger to him, or will he have the instinct to be more cautious....

I put my hunting boots in the garage for long periods. Is there a danger of critters crawling in there? Anything else we should know about? Thanks
As others wrote, be careful with your dog.

ALWAYS shake your boots out. Brown recluse can be PAINFUL.
No snow.

Ya kin tractor twelve months.

HECK YES THERE IS SNOW!

Last year we had a 4 inch snowfall! Roads were shut down for HOURS!

Having come from Burlington, Vermont I recognize some major differences in the people down here in Mississippi. First of all as a general rule most Southerners are SLOW talking compared to us from the North. It's not a reflection of their intelligence or speed of thought, they just often speak slower.
Just because someone is speaking slow don't assume they are slow mentally. Northerners can be fast and stupid.

The education system down here is POOR based on national rankings and also a niece who was a teacher here a few years ago. My BIL's chikdren were told about 10 years ago they could not use the internet for homework because not everyone had internet.

Liquor laws are also weird. Fulton JUST voted in liquor sales. The county is still dry. It seems to be one of those rules they use to bust people they don't like. My house was owned by a deputy Sheriff known for his beer parties, in a dry county.
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #27  
Amen brother. We get the heat, we get the snakes, and we get the snow too.. I hate the snow the worst.

I was "held hostage" for a couple of years north of the Mason Dixon line in St Louis. I got a taste of all the fun stuff that Misery...I mean Missouri has to offer. I was there for the great flood of '93 (actually in St Peters not St Louis, but most don't know where St Peters is). I had the wicked hot summers and a few of your winters. If I never have to shovel any snow again it will be too soon. As minimal as it was there, I don't know how the folks in North Dakota, Wyoming, Minnesota (et al) do it. They most be some tough folks to put up with that mess year after year.
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #28  
Interesting to compare the challenges of a northerner moving south and vice versa. I think they are quite different problems. My mother (FL) and wife (AL) are both from the deep south but I'm a dyed in the wool Yankee. My best friend in high school was orginally from Alabama and we spent hours and hours playing a complicated Gettysburg board game for years, always taking the predictable side. So, yes, there are significant cultural differences and those seem to have been set in stone well before the Civil War. Yes, northerners are brash and their "normal" behavior is often grating to southerners who generally avoid conflict in social interactions. Yes, northerners are still operating under the "good fences make good neighbors" philosophy while southerners are famously hospitable. However, I don't think that a southerner moving north would need to worry at all about being accepted at work or neighborhood or socially. We not only tolerate southerners up here but we almost always like them. We even like Texans, at least as individuals (why are Texans so pleasant individually and so nuts as a group???) I think a good part of it is that deep down northerners are not at all threatened by southerners. We like their food, their accents are charming, they are almost always personable so what's not to like? Really no issue for a southerner moving north except for their need to adapt to our winters and less charming society. And, it is certainly easier to get good BBQ up north than it is to find a clam bake or good kielbasa or bagels in most of the south.

A northerner moving south however would find 1) near universal suspicion regarding dam uppity Yankees, 2) difficulty breaking into society without joining a church, 3) be considered a pinko if they didn't own a pickup and at least half a dozen firearms. Most importantly, because northerners are at baseline less comfortable dropping in to say hello and more likely to mind their own business, the various stereotypes applied to those from the north tend to be confirmed. Yankees don't automatically adopt southern customs so they remain outsiders. There is a relatively tight social bond between folks in the south and northerners aren't easily accepted largely because they simply don't have any experience with that type of society. We make friends at school and work but are much less likely to have tight neighborhood bonds (exceptions in some big cities like NYC and Boston but in that case the tight neighborhood bonds typically serve primarily to exclude outsiders from other neighborhoods rather than as an open welcoming community so common in the south).

Overall, I'd rather be a southerner moving north. Just learn to use a snow shovel and get some proper snow tires. No complex and delicate social structure to navigate.
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #29  
If you hear banjo music, paddle faster.

By the time ya hear the music... It's all over !!
I've got kin folk in Mississippi...

I guess I like the humid weather.. Been here 57 yrs..
Never been past the Mason Dixon..I know my place
 
   / Movin South... Silly yankee questions... #30  
I was "held hostage" for a couple of years north of the Mason Dixon line in St Louis. I got a taste of all the fun stuff that Misery...I mean Missouri has to offer. I was there for the great flood of '93 (actually in St Peters not St Louis, but most don't know where St Peters is). I had the wicked hot summers and a few of your winters. If I never have to shovel any snow again it will be too soon. As minimal as it was there, I don't know how the folks in North Dakota, Wyoming, Minnesota (et al) do it. They most be some tough folks to put up with that mess year after year.

Dawg;

Unless I'm mistaken, Missouri was south of the M-D line derived after the start of the War Between the States? Maybe you were actually "held hostage" in East St. Louis, Illinois?

Mason Dixon Line

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