Dirt Moving Moving gravel with a carry all

[groundhogbay]

New member here. Just bought a YM1820D with a FEL to use at my cabin.

I want to move some gravel off the beach to a building pad about 500' away.

Instead of moving material one tiny bucket at a time, I was thinking about using a carry all with a quick hitch and hydraulic top link to speed things up.

Drive down the beach. Drop the carry all. Load it with gravel. Scoop the bucket full of gravel. Hook the carry all back on. Drive to the building pad. Dump the gravel with the hydraulic top link, then back to the beach and repeat process.

Would this work? Or is it just a cumbersome waste of time?

I can't just hire a big loader to do the work because the building site is only accessible by water.

Thanks.

 

[winston1]

I have a rear scoop I use with my loader and with it full and loader full I believe that is all the weight I should carry. I have a ym2002d. I actually moved 40+ yards with it about 400'. Many trips.

 

[Deere Dude]

I have a rear scoop I use with my loader and with it full and loader full I believe that is all the weight I should carry. I have a ym2002d. I actually moved 40+ yards with it about 400'. Many trips.

I agree. I moved a ton of dirt using a dirt scoop and FEL at the same time. Just watch out if you decide to fill the FEL and then back into a pile to fill you scoop. With a full FEL you can get a lot of traction and the extra force will possibly bend a 3 Pt hitch arm. Been there, done that. It works better if you pull the scoop over the pile and fill it, then fill the FEL. But that's just me. If i had to disconnect something and rehook it all the time, I would just give up on it.

 

[284 International]

How much gravel are you needing to move? What is the terrain like? I would, if the amount of material was reasonable, try buying 2 or 3 ( or 4 or 5?) of something like this: Small dump wagon]

Then I'd try daisy-chaining them together with clevises from the pull handle of one to the rear axle or something of the one in front, then have a hook or something on the drawbar to latch the frontmost handle to. Then, when you're ready to move gravel, tow your chain of wagons to the beach. Pull the rope you've tied onto the front wagon handle and unhook it. Go scoop up gravel and dump into/onto the wagons until they are full. Back up next to the wagon, then easily hook up, since the wagon's tiller will move easily.

Drag the string of gravel-laden wagons to where you want the material. Dump the hind-most first, then work your way up. Close them all, then drive back to the beach. If your terrain is rocky or rough this won't work, but if it's smooth and fairly level I'd be surprised if you couldn't make it work quickly and easily. The wagons should transport at fairly high speed, so you'll lose the least amount of time in transit, and your hook up and uncouple times will be reduced, even versus a quick hitch.

The other advantage of this is you could leave a box blade or ballast box or other implement on back to avoid the difficulty of doing loader work with no weight in the rear. Other bigger dump trailers are available, but if speed is your concern, even with a swinging drawbar it will be slower to cocnnect than dropping a wagon handle over a hook. If you have a receiver mount on your box blade or something, this type of hitch would make it a snap: Receiver tow hook]

 

[shawnjvl]

Where did you get the 1820D? How do you like it?

 

[radioman]

you may not be able to get the angle needed with carry all to dump it. Even with a quick hitch to pick up and set down will be cumbersome after a few trips unless you are only doing a few loads. A self contained hydraulic trailer is probably best if you can get it there.

We are not sure what property is really like, and how the drive from beach to building site is like to give you a better answer.

 

[careyo63]

What I use around the house. Just about stays on this time of Yr. It's older and well made from Sears I believe I seen on it that I've had forever. I used it for moving Crush and Run. Esp. when I was building the House and Dr. the Tilt bed comes in real handy for dumping the gravel.

Carey

 

[groundhogbay]

I have to cross a big section of rocky beach to get to the gravel. It's fairly rough going, so I don't think a trailer would last very long. Any improvements I make to the beach get washed away after a few tide changes.

A scoop looks like my best bet so far.

I'll try and post some pictures in a couple of days to give everyone an idea of the size of the project.

I bought the tractor from Gorilla Tractors in Washington. They were kind enough to deliver it to Alaska Marine Lines for shipment.

 

[groundhogbay]

Oh, and I've only put 3 hours on the 1820D so far.

Had to move some snow out of the driveway.

I like it.

 

[careyo63]

Post some pics.You would be amazed what all I have to cross with it. If the tractor gets over it. The trailers a piece of cake with most of the weight on it's two wheels. I know my Thrill Seeking Wheelie Days are long gone that may be a problem with on the Rocks and how much you can move. Spilling it out etc. if the terrain is that bad. IMO.

Carey

 

[284 International]

If you have a scoop on back, and a bucket full up front, you may be better to just carry each load that way. A dumping carry all would neat to tilt pretty far in order to fully dump and not require you to get off and scrape it out-if I recall, the angle of repose for gravel is 30 to 40 degrees. You wouldn't need all of that, probably, but pretty close.

How much material are you talking about?

 

[Army grunt]

The trick is to not go fast,just steady. I cut a 8ft bank that was next to me pond an filled a large hole making a rec area for the boyscout camp I am building. It just takes time..
Army Grunt

 

[284 International]

That's a nice looking swimming hole! How much fill did you move, and what did you use to do it? How many hours do you figure you've got in it?

 

[California]

Why not a small utility trailer?

 

[groundhogbay]

Here is a picture (I hope) of the road to the building pad.

 

[groundhogbay]

Here is the building pad.

 

[groundhogbay]

I can't find a good picture that shows the beach.

This picture was taken directly below the cabin. The gravel I'll be harvesting is down the beach a ways, off in the distance.

 

[284 International]

I think you have a part of the answer already. Use that little flatbed converted Samurai (assuming it's yours) to pull a dump utility trailer like what Carey posted. Use the tractor to load the trailer, pull the trailer with the Sami, dump, and go back for another load.

It's hard to tell from the photo how much gravel you're wanting. Is that about a 20x40 foot pad? How deep do you need it to be? 4 inches thick and you're looking at about 10 cubic yards of material. That's doable, but it's going to take a lot of trips no matter what you do.

A reasonably good trailer will drive across that beach just fine, it's just going to bump around some. The ride will be smoother in the sprung 4x4 Suzuki than with a loaded tractor across those rocks. Neither will be fun. You can do it, though.

 

[clemsonfor]

What I use around the house. Just about stays on this time of Yr. It's older and well made from Sears I believe I seen on it that I've had forever. I used it for moving Crush and Run. Esp. when I was building the House and Dr. the Tilt bed comes in real handy for dumping the gravel.

Carey

My uncle has the same one. Been outside for the last 20 yrs or so. Its bed is almost separated from the frame and has new wheels and rims! His is black though.

 

[careyo63]

Perfect example they sure don't make things like they use to. My guess is over 30yrs. old clemsonfor. I doubt that the bed will ever wear out

Carey