Mr. Funnel?

5030 · Apr 22, 2004

John:

If you fuel BEFORE the Stanadyne, use the funnel. If you add the Stanadyne and then fuel, forget the funnel. The emulsified water will pass through the membrane.

Cliff_Johns · Apr 22, 2004

( John:

If you fuel BEFORE the Stanadyne, use the funnel. If you add the Stanadyne and then fuel, forget the funnel. The emulsified water will pass through the membrane. )

But what happens to the water in the fuel as it goes through the system if it's emulsified? Does it go harmlessly through motor and out the exaust as water vapor?
Cliff

MadReferee · Apr 22, 2004

( OK, so you run 5 gallons through the filter and get, let's say, a half cup of trapped stuff!

How does a tractor handle this if you are not using a Mr. funnel? I mean, won't the filter fill up with water after every few gallons of use.
)

No different. I believe that the Mr Funnel will trap more water molecules than the fuel filter. Thats the whole purpose of it. Better be safe than sorry. I always add any additives after the fuel goes into the tank.

TheKid · Apr 22, 2004

( When I buy diesel now from the service station pump, my Mr Funnel traps anywhere from 1-2 cups of liquid per 5 gal can. If I buy the off road diesel from the supplier's smaller 1000 gallon tank, the Mr Funnel traps less than 1 cup.
) If I were you I would find a different place to buy my fuel. I've put over 2000 gallons of diesel through my pickup and I have never had any water show up in the water separator/fuel filter.

MadReferee · Apr 22, 2004

( If I were you I would find a different place to buy my fuel. I've put over 2000 gallons of diesel through my pickup and I have never had any water show up in the water separator/fuel filter. )

I hate to burst your bubble but ALL fuel contains some water, diesel more so than gas. The fuel filters on your tractor and truck are not designed to remove all water and other contaminates. They do remove enough so that the injectors, etc all work fine. However, Mr Funnel, according to their propaganda on the web site, will trap any molecule up to .005 inches in diameter.

Every diesel storage tank at every filling station has water in it. Same have more than others. Mine had it. It usually settles to the bottom but does mix with the actual fuel.

Go buy a Mr Funnel, then buy some diesel from your local filling station. I will wager that you will get close to 1 cup of liquid that does not make it thru the Mr Funnel per 5 gallons.

You can read the Mr Funnel propaganda here:
Mr Funnel web site and
Here

KiotiJohn · Apr 24, 2004

To add to what others have said, I put my treatment in AFTER I use the Mr. Funnel to fuel the tank. I had thought of treating the whole 55 gal. tank, but then realized it would not work then with the Mr. Funnel. I would rather keep ANY water from getting into my tractor, and I also ALWAYS refill the tank at the end of my useage for the day to avoid condensation. Get a Mr. Funnel, fill it with water, and just TRY to find a drop of water getting through. I can't. I think it's really inexpensive insurance. Wish I could get insurance for my car, motorhome and tractor so cheaply. John

StoneyFF · Apr 24, 2004

Koby,

I just bought a couple of 5 gal Diesel cans (OK, plastic) to use to with my NH TC35D... and as of the beginning of the year, in NY they can only sell these new fangled "leakproof" cans... and that means that you have to push on the spout (there's a lip that fits over the edge of the opening) to open it so the fuel can flow. How would this work with the Mr. Funnel? I'm concerned that I won't have enough hands to do this and not spill it all over the place!

I like the idea of Mr. Funnel, but not sure how to use it with these new cans... Ideas?

Stoney
{Gotta love government saving us from ourselves yet again... }

KiotiJohn · Apr 25, 2004

( I like the idea of Mr. Funnel, but not sure how to use it with these new cans... Ideas?)
Stoney, as I think I stated earlier, I bought the small Mr. Funnel. I have the same type container, and I just sit it up and push it down on the lip of the funnel. Since the funnel is pretty small, I don't have a problem doing this, however, you have to make sure you aim the spout a little away from the element in the middle of the funnel, or it will splash out and over the funnel. Sometimes I DO hold the spout back with the other hand, just depends on my mood! John

Trailblazer · Apr 26, 2004

( But what happens to the water in the fuel as it goes through the system if it's emulsified? Does it go harmlessly through motor and out the exaust as water vapor?)

I'm interested in the answer to this question too. Does a small amount of water in diesel with an emulsifier in it do any harm to the engine? Do you need to remove water at all if you routinely add an emulsifier after refueling?

StoneyFF · Apr 26, 2004

KJ,

Thanks, if you can do it, then I suspect there's hope for me <hopeful grin>...

Stoney
{Of course, this presumes a level of coordination that I may... or may NOT... possess <grin>...}