Multiple threads no clear answer CK/X2510 engine vs CK2610

[LevesqueOnline]

Hey all, I have seen many threads but no real conclusion.

Both the CX2510 and CK2610 have the same CC of 1600 the website claims but the CX has an 87CU engine and the CK2610 has a 105CU

I will start by the fact I am not mechanically included, own a massey GC and upgrading in spring, but looking at these, and cant understand the power difference here for the bigger tractor, ive also thought CC indicate the power, but the the bigger engine is obviously different?

CK2610

Engine Model	3H-TM4B
Engine Gross Power	24.5 hp (18.3 kW)
Rated Speed	2,600 rpm
No. of Cylinders	3
Fuel Type	Diesel
Displacement	100.5 cu. in. (1,647 cc)
Fuel Tank Capacity	9 gal. (34 L)

CX2510

Engine Model	3A165LWH-U3
Engine Gross Power	24.5 hp (18.2 kW)
Rated Speed	2,600 rpm
No. of Cylinders	3
Fuel Type	Diesel
Aspiration	Natural
Displacement	87 cu. in (1,647 cc)
Fuel Tank Capacity	6.6 gal. (25L)

 

[Ortimber]

More than likely, if the engine in the CK2610 is in fact larger (conflicting info on the spec sheet) it would probably have
slightly more torque.

 

[LS Tractor Owner]

The CK2610 is a 30hp engine that has been derated to 24.5 hp by changing the injection pump output, injection pressure, timing, etc...

It is not unheard of for manufacturers to use the same engine in multiple tractors, just changing the "tuning". Engine hp can also be rated at different rpm. The 2610 probably develops it's max hp at a lower rpm than the CX2510.

 

[Roadworthy]

1647 cc is about 100.5 cubic inches. 87 cubic inches works out to about 1426 cc. The engines are obviously not the same size and I suspect a typo on the spec sheet.

 

[LevesqueOnline]

1647 cc is about 100.5 cubic inches. 87 cubic inches works out to about 1426 cc. The engines are obviously not the same size and I suspect a typo on the spec sheet.

Thanks, seems odd they havnt fixed that after all these years as the soon to be #3 tractor in the US but agreed does seem like a typo. I have seen alot of people mention being able to dial some screw to get more power out of the CK but never the CX and the engine model itself is different too.

thanks again for the responses all

 

[iptman]

Hey all, I have seen many threads but no real conclusion.

Both the CX2510 and CK2610 have the same CC of 1600 the website claims but the CX has an 87CU engine and the CK2610 has a 105CU

I will start by the fact I am not mechanically included, own a massey GC and upgrading in spring, but looking at these, and cant understand the power difference here for the bigger tractor, ive also thought CC indicate the power, but the the bigger engine is obviously different?

CK2610

Engine Model	3H-TM4B
Engine Gross Power	24.5 hp (18.3 kW)
Rated Speed	2,600 rpm
No. of Cylinders	3
Fuel Type	Diesel
Displacement	100.5 cu. in. (1,647 cc)
Fuel Tank Capacity	9 gal. (34 L)

CX2510

Engine Model	3A165LWH-U3
Engine Gross Power	24.5 hp (18.2 kW)
Rated Speed	2,600 rpm
No. of Cylinders	3
Fuel Type	Diesel
Aspiration	Natural
Displacement	87 cu. in (1,647 cc)
Fuel Tank Capacity	6.6 gal. (25L)

Where are you seeing the CK2610 having that engine? The Kioti website shows the CK2610 as having the 3A165LWM-U.

 

[LevesqueOnline]

Where are you seeing the CK2610 having that engine? The Kioti website shows the CK2610 as having the 3A165LWM-U.

I pulled that off the Kioti website

 

[iptman]

What's the link? Maybe a different engine in Canada?

CK2610 HST Compact Tractor | Kioti Tractors

CK2610 HST Compact Tractor - Engine Gross Power: 24.5 hp (18.2 kW); PTO Type: Live; Transmission Type: Hydrostatic; Shuttle: Dry Single Stage

www.kioti.com

 

[LevesqueOnline]

What's the link? Maybe a different engine in Canada?

CK2610 HST Compact Tractor | Kioti Tractors

CK2610 HST Compact Tractor - Engine Gross Power: 24.5 hp (18.2 kW); PTO Type: Live; Transmission Type: Hydrostatic; Shuttle: Dry Single Stage

www.kioti.com

 

[iptman]

Ah, you're talking about the CK2610SE.

 

[LevesqueOnline]

i suspect its the exact same engine but with the AC setup

 

[LevesqueOnline]

Ah, you're talking about the CK2610SE.

Also

different, WM instead of WH 87 CI versus 100.7

 

[iptman]

The 87 cu listing is clearly wrong. The "165" in the model number on Daedong engines indicate the CCs.

 

[LevesqueOnline]

The 87 cu listing is clearly wrong. The "165" in the model number on Daedong engines indicate the CCs.

So your thinking the CK/CX2510 still has this de-tuned 35hp ? big engine for small tractor I like it

 

[Username Taken]

So your thinking the CK/CX2510 still has this de-tuned 35hp ? big engine for small tractor I like it

Kioti changed engines in the 2510 model, beginning in 2016, to the 100 CID engine. Before then, it had the smaller engine.

Look at 'Model Year' in the header and you'll see a drop box with the two different engines

TractorData.com Kioti CK2510 tractor information

www.tractordata.com

 

[Midniteoyl]

Hey all, I have seen many threads but no real conclusion.

Both the CX2510 and CK2610 have the same CC of 1600 the website claims but the CX has an 87CU engine and the CK2610 has a 105CU

I will start by the fact I am not mechanically included, own a massey GC and upgrading in spring, but looking at these, and cant understand the power difference here for the bigger tractor, ive also thought CC indicate the power, but the the bigger engine is obviously different?

CK2610

Engine Model	3H-TM4B
Engine Gross Power	24.5 hp (18.3 kW)
Rated Speed	2,600 rpm
No. of Cylinders	3
Fuel Type	Diesel
Displacement	100.5 cu. in. (1,647 cc)
Fuel Tank Capacity	9 gal. (34 L)

CX2510

Engine Model	3A165LWH-U3
Engine Gross Power	24.5 hp (18.2 kW)
Rated Speed	2,600 rpm
No. of Cylinders	3
Fuel Type	Diesel
Aspiration	Natural
Displacement	87 cu. in (1,647 cc)
Fuel Tank Capacity	6.6 gal. (25L)

87cu. is *not* 1647cc, so its a misprint, simple as that.. The smaller engine will have its PTO (and torque) RPM higher than the bigger engine.

 

[LevesqueOnline]

87cu. is *not* 1647cc, so its a misprint, simple as that..

agreed but one shouldnt have to guess which value is the misprint

 

[Jeff1968]

The cx2510 and ck2620 have the same engine according to the dealer site, there is a mistake listing the cubic inch vs cubic centimeter. Both are 1647 cc. Which is a 32-35 HP engine as far as I can tell. I have been interested to find if the cx can be turned up. Most 24.5hp tractors use 1000cc engines.

 

[Jeff1968]

agreed but one shouldnt have to guess which value is the misprint

You can compare engine model numbers...

 

[coxxoc]

I’ll help answer the question. CK2610, CK2620, and CX2510 have the same 3A165 engine. There was an older tier 3 emissions compliant version in the CK35 that made 34 horsepower. People tune the fuel mixture screw and pump timing to 18 degrees to “match” the 34 horsepower configuration.

The photos are from my CX2510 and the Daedong Kioti diesel engine series brochure which confirm the above statements.