Mx5100 remotes. Questions.

[LD1]

Started the research today. Still not in a hurry as I don't have any uses at the moment.

Dang stuff is expensive. Haven't really found a "kit" that has all that is needed. Rather a valve (l8304 IIRC) and then a handle kit. Seems about $800-$1000 just for 1 stinking remote.

Got me thinking. A simple 3 spool lever valve, with floats, detents, whatever....is about $300. Not sure what the manifold blocks (or whatever they are called) that you look the implement to cost. But can't imagine they are that much.

Not really concerned with factory look. Only care about function. So...has anyone ever made an adapter block to hook a supply and return line to feed a generic 3-spool valve. An adapter block that will bolt on where the first remote valve normally would? Making one would be pretty easy with the mill, and either some NPT or ORB ports

 

[s219]

I haven't done it, but looking at the block that came with my factory valve kit, it would be pretty easy to do. Mine (for L3200) bolted against the side of the transmission case and used o-ring seals against the case. Valves stacked up to the side of the block.

 

[LD1]

I think that's how this one is too, based off pics and diagrams I have seen online.

A $300 valve + some hoses and rear two-port blocks seems a lot more cost effective than $1800-$2000 for an OEM triple setup

 

[s219]

For sure -- the OEM kits are extremely expensive, and if you can get away with a custom build using off the shelf parts, and integrate it nicely by machining a mounting block, then it's the way to go. Heck, if you can also fab some custom "nested" levers for the valve stack, you could likely come close to the integration and fit of the OEM kit.

 

[k0ua]

I think that's how this one is too, based off pics and diagrams I have seen online.

A $300 valve + some hoses and rear two-port blocks seems a lot more cost effective than $1800-$2000 for an OEM triple setup

Yes, the Kubota OEM valves are a rip off pricewise. Most of the Kioti CUTS gave you one, and the dealers charged between 350 and 450 for the second, and LS gives you two. There is no good reason those OEM valves should be so much. I guess things are worth what people will pay for them, and people will pay for them.

 

[LD1]

I agree. Which is why I am considering what I am.

There is nothing unique about the Kubota setup. Just a stack valve with different levers.

Only thing unique is how that valve attaches. And don't want to buy a whole kit for $800+ just to simply tie into the hydraulics.

I'll have to do some more shopping and figure out just what 3-spool valve I want. Gonna be a function of affordability, and what I think will be easiest to mount.

Then I'll take the cover off, get some measurements, and mill an adapter block

 

[k0ua]

I agree. Which is why I am considering what I am.

There is nothing unique about the Kubota setup. Just a stack valve with different levers.

Only thing unique is how that valve attaches. And don't want to buy a whole kit for $800+ just to simply tie into the hydraulics.

I'll have to do some more shopping and figure out just what 3-spool valve I want. Gonna be a function of affordability, and what I think will be easiest to mount.

Then I'll take the cover off, get some measurements, and mill an adapter block

Will be looking forward to your design and implementation. Take lots of pictures.

 

[k0ua]

The good news, is you probably have just a bit more room on the MX than you would have on the L3400. Might make the fitting a bit easier. Hopefully.

 

[LD1]

Not sure when I'll get to it, but when I do, you can certainly count on me posting all the details and info

 

[LD1]

Some more questions for you fine gents.....

Looking to get started on this project. Gonna head down to the shop tonight and take the cover off where the OEM 1st valve would normally bolt to. Use it as a template for an adapter block I need to make to convert to hoses to supply the valve stack.

I will find out soon enough, but does kubota use OC or CC valves in their remotes? If I pull off the plate, and the supply and return ports are connected, would indicate OC. If they are isolated...would that not mean I need a CC valve stack?

Now on to couplers and coupler mounting. Seems I cannot find anything online. Sure I can buy couplers and mount them in a block, then stack the 3 blocks together.......but does anyone have a kit (affordable) that already has a pair of female QC's and a few bolt holes to mount them? Perhaps I am searching using the wrong terms?

An what about couplers. I have used both ISO5675 (AG type parker 4000) and ISO 7241-b (parker 60 series) before. Neither type have breakaway that I am aware of. And both types require you to slide the locking ring to connect/disconnect. Should I be looking at some special version of an ISO 5675? Or does the breakaway feature come from basically clamp mounting them by the locking ring, thus when the hose is pulled on, being mounted to the tractor by the locking, you are operating the sliding ring simply by pulling on the hose? U have some air couplers that are quick push-connect type that dont require sliding the locking ring to connect. I assume they make something similar for hydraulics?

Closest thing I found that I think I need was the safeway S40 series / parker 4200. Listed as having a 2-way sliding collar. So when clamp mounting by the collar, either pushing or pulling on the connection via the male hose, would operate the sliding ring. Which is exactally what I want. One hand plug and play, one hand removal. Buying 6 of these fittings and machining a stack of mounts that clamp around the sliding coller seems pretty straight foward, but time consuming. Thus....any good aftermarket sources.

According to messicks website, kubota wants $150 for each female coupler and $60 for the block they go in. I aint paying $360 for a pair of female couplers and mount block.