My garage/workshop/machineshed/truck garage/b.s. area

[RedNeckRacin]

RobS,

Thanks again. The PE wouldn't take too much studying, break it up over period of time. Besides it is supposed to be based on practical knowledge. As long as you have kept up with the field and brush up on the basics you should be fine. Its never too late to study anything. You never know what an old dog can learn. ( no offsense if your not an old dog yet )

I was thinking the same thing. I know as soon as I would put in a 10' tall door I would need two more feet. Thats the way things work. So your saying a 14' door and hide the door above the ceiling? I was thinking about recessing the lights into the ceiling as well just for a clean look.

 

[BayouMan]

Hey Red,

I have a 40' x 75' with a 14' eave height and 3 ea 12' x 12' roll up doors and 4 ea personnel doors. Go with the 16' eave height if you can afford, for Three reasons. 1) The higher ceiling allows the heat to stay way up over your head in the summer time. 2) I built a storage mezanine area and to keep rfom bumping my head on the roof purlins, could only go 7' to the bottom of the floor joist. 3) Going the additional 2' height only cost you for the additional steel. No affect on your slab cost. I have a 20/5 gooseneck and had to replace the deck on it last summer. Only had a couple of feet on either end, to get around it, on the 40' direction. One last point, insulate the ceiling and walls. It make a huge difference in working comfort.

Mike

 

[RedNeckRacin]

Mike

mezanine

??? I am assuming you built a storage area above something for additional space. I was kind of thinking that Idea but I thought that I would need to make an extremely strong set of joists or use steel to support the extra weight. I was actually thinking about making some sort of palletized storage for large items and using the idea you had for bulky items like filters, oil, grease, hoses, Stuff that is generally in the way until you need it.

Anybody have any idea about bridge cranes? I am toying with the Idea but I am beginning to think that I could just put forks on a large tractor(somewhere down the road when the funds come avaliable ) )and using that. Although I was thinking that it might be a nuisance trying to maneuver around with it inside. Where a bridge crane would be out of the way until needed. I was kind of picturing unloading shop equipment or maybe motors? Not sure exactly though.

Any body have wish list items that they thought of after you finished your garage?

 

[MrJimi]

You should take a look in my galleries here, i'm not sure which one but i have a 24' X 48'8" storage in mine

 

[wushaw]

Ceiling lights.....low bay metal halide with a mix of florecent for instant on and when you don't need daylight.

I have six metal halide on three switches to use as necessary and three flourecent running down the center for general lighting when I don't need daylight which is what I use most of the time.

 

[BayouMan]

Hey Red,
I built an 8' x 18' mezzanine. Not anything nearly as substantial as Mr. Jimi's. He could probably store some of his cars on his. I used 2' x 8' for the floor framing, with 3/4" luan decking, and I only store misc light items, like fishing gear, Christmas stuff, etc. It is very solid and gained me an additional 144 sq ft of storage. Take a look at Mr Jimi's gallery. Wow!

Mike

 

[RedNeckRacin]

Well Lighting is going to be a big concern, I was even thinking about some sky lights but I don't know about those yet. Thanks for the ideas, I'll take anything I can get)

So anybody who isn't sitting down should, and anybody that is taking a drink better set it down for a second.

I called general steel back yesterday, and they about floored me. I had talked to a regional dealer and he quoted me around $12/SF and I am thinking that that was for the building materials only. Then the guy at corporate told me "sure we can do anything you want basically. We can do it for roughly $35/sf installed." I was like *&@#!! I know labor is expensive and steel isn't getting any cheaper, but ***. SO, on that note, I told the fiance and she said basically said the same thing and that we can ,to quote her, "Build it ourselves." So not only did i get hammered with that price, I am gonna get to learn the fine art of learning to design foundations, steel erection, and all the rest of the nitty gritty for buildings.

I guess I should have seen this coming right?



Mr. Jimi,

I like what you did and I think I have some ideas stewing in the mess of cob webs I have going on.

wushaw
You answered one of my questions before I could even ask it. I was curious what kind of lighting scheme would be simple and bright enough to keep things from looking like a cave.

 

[MrJimi]

Mr. Jimi,

I like what you did and I think I have some ideas stewing in the mess of cob webs I have going on.

I'm more than willing to share what I have learned with you or anyone else on here
I have gained almost 1,200 square feet of storage, my friend Pierre that helped with it said it was larger than his home

We can talk on phone some time, I don't type too good
Jim

 

[wushaw]

Well Lighting is going to be a big concern, I was even thinking about some sky lights but I don't know about those yet. Thanks for the ideas, I'll take anything I can get)

So anybody who isn't sitting down should, and anybody that is taking a drink better set it down for a second.

I called general steel back yesterday, and they about floored me. I had talked to a regional dealer and he quoted me around $12/SF and I am thinking that that was for the building materials only. Then the guy at corporate told me "sure we can do anything you want basically. We can do it for roughly $35/sf installed." I was like *&@#!! I know labor is expensive and steel isn't getting any cheaper, but ***. SO, on that note, I told the fiance and she said basically said the same thing and that we can ,to quote her, "Build it ourselves." So not only did i get hammered with that price, I am gonna get to learn the fine art of learning to design foundations, steel erection, and all the rest of the nitty gritty for buildings.

I guess I should have seen this coming right?



Mr. Jimi,

I like what you did and I think I have some ideas stewing in the mess of cob webs I have going on.

wushaw
You answered one of my questions before I could even ask it. I was curious what kind of lighting scheme would be simple and bright enough to keep things from looking like a cave.

I know what you mean by cave, I have another friend with a 40X80 dungen.

I have four skylights that work very well but if I had to do it all over I would have the skylights installed on the vertical side of the south side of the building due to the leak potential or already have with skylights on the roof.

Without skylights of some kind you will need to use lights anytime you can't open up several doors.

The only time I ever need any light during the day with door closed is during heavy cloud cover which is not too often here.

 

[davkir]

Hard to imagine something more fun then planning something like this.
I agree with some of the others that 14' clear height would be good. Mine is 12' and some of the hay wagons have been stacked to high to fit. Also I used to have a gooseneck horse trailer that wouldn't clear with a standard sized rooftop HVAC. I would make sure that at least one bay was long enough for your longest trailer with tow vehicle attached.
My "bridge crane" is home made, but I find it pretty handy for my car hobby.
The lean-to is handy for storage especially when implements are wet/snow covered/muddy. Keeps some of the dirt out of the barn.
Have fun!