MY local fire department has STUPID policies.....

[300UGUY]

I'd just burn it. We have snow on the ground, and pretty cold temps. They really aren't going to do much to you, unless you burn the township down. And that will probably be the least of your problems...

 

[RobertN]

OP I thought I saw you complain about them in the past. If you don't like it, help elect a new board, or volunteer yourself.
It's tough enough as it is to volunteer, leaving family at 3am to fight a fire or medical aid, or that call Christmas day. And, work full time job.

 

[aczlan]

Sounds like a volunteer dept. career departments don't "close" ever. 24-7. Honestly if I got the call to inspect your pile and you were being nasty like you are in this thread, I'd ding you for having lumber in the pile. You would need to break it apart so I can insure your not burning pressure treated wood which is against ALL outdoor burning regs. You get more flys with honey. Next time you see some guys at the station stop by with some ice cream I cookies and introduce yourself. I'd bet they would look out for you in the future

I work with a bunch of guys who are in the local volunteer fire departments and they would have a similar reaction...

Aaron Z

 

[coobie]

Yesterday I went to the local township hall and filled out a burning permit...and according to the guidelines on the permit, Quote: "Burning of any pile larger than 5'X5'X3' requires approval by the local fire chief or his designated" (sic)

Since my pile is much larger than they note, I asked for an inspection that day as there was supposed to be no wind today...and it's a sunny, 15 degree day without a breath of wind so far. Still waiting for the useless local fire department to send someone out to inspect the pile and give me an okay to light it off. It is composed of 100% brush and lumber and there is NOTHING in it that violates the burning regulations....NOTHING!!! As the photos show, the closest building is well over 450 feet away and there is a foot of snow on the ground, and I have plowed a path for any required fire equipment to drive back should it be needed. Gave them a map, my cell number and email addresses, and all I need is for them to get off their lazy butts and come out and look at the pile.

MORONS !!! Exactly WHAT do they think is the danger of a bonfire in MY situation??? MORONS !!!

MY brother says I should just light it up the pile and let them deal with it their lousy attitude. Comments are welcome.

Maybe the fire department had a fire call to go on that day.Would you think the fire fighters were (according to you)lazy,useless,morons if you had a real fire emergency?I think NOT,these folks put there lives on the line on a daily basis to help folks.

 

[RobertN]

Let's see...

Pager goes off
Leave work to get to station(leave full time job that pays the bills).
Get to station
Wait for other volunteers who had to drop work to respond
Gear up
Go out on call
Put fire out
Deal with landowner
And it was a state ordinance from Air Resources, who now have to be called.
Finally, get back to station, gear down, clean up
Back to work late
Boss is not happy
I'm not happy
Wife not happy showing up late because had to finish work after being a couple hours on call
Kids missed Dad cause they are already in bed.
And pager goes off at 2am for CPR in progress.

Ya, thanks!

Just burn it...

I'd just burn it. We have snow on the ground, and pretty cold temps. They really aren't going to do much to you, unless you burn the township down. And that will probably be the least of your problems...

 

[JDgreen227]

I posted the pics to actually SHOW the members here what the situation is...does anybody really think a huge burn is going to create any problems? Look at the buildings in the distance....part of the problem here is that I GET SUCH A LIMITED WINDOW TO BURN IN....MAYBE FOUR DAYS A YEAR AND TODAY WAS ONE OF THEM !!! If there is too much snow I cannot clear a path to the pile, if there is too little snow I don't have a means to put it out should situations require. IT HAS TO BE OUT BY DARK.....DUHHHHH !!!!! And the permits say NO WIND....I live on a hill and it's almost always windy as H*LL here....I studied and studied the weather forecasts for several days and TODAY would have been the perfect day to burn...and the morons could not take half an hour to come out and inspect my pile!!!! AND YOU KNOW WHAT???? Had I just lit it off this morning without ANY authorization it probably would have been fine....

SO WHY DO THEY PUT SO MANY STUPID RESTRICTIONS ON A BURN LIKE MINE??? MORONS !!!!! Try to follow the rules and accomodate things to be a good resident who pays 4 grand in property taxes a year and this is the kind of service you get? MORONS !!!!!!

 

[JDgreen227]

And you know what....because of the stupid burn restrictions I cannot burn except in wintertime....the vast majority of that pile in the pictures came from the ice storm last winter...and by the time it was cleared up I COULD NOT BURN ANY OF IT because of the stupid restrictions !!!!

 

[dusty3030]

Can the 5 x 5 x 3 be burned anytime of the year?
Eat an elephant one bite at time.

I've actually done that. I had a pile that got big and weather got wrong so I broke it down to smaller until I had a good day to light the whole thing.

Depending on storms or whatnot I burn off probably 10 of what you have a year. Common sense, personal responsibility and patience for the right winds / weather. Heck a slow steady rain is great weather to light off a big one in.

 

[RobertN]

Most of midwinter burning in my area is limited by state air quality board, not by my fire district. From what I have read that is pretty much same across the country.

Those "moron's" from the local FD are probably like me; today was a work day. Good chance they are at their full time job, so they can pay their mortgage.

SO WHY DO THEY PUT SO MANY STUPID RESTRICTIONS ON A BURN LIKE MINE??? MORONS !!!!! Try to follow the rules and accommodate things to be a good resident who pays 4 grand in property taxes a year and this is the kind of service you get? MORONS !!!!!!

 

[aczlan]

Let's see...
Pager goes off
Leave work to get to station(leave full time job that pays the bills).
Get to station
Wait for other volunteers who had to drop work to respond
Gear up
Go out on call
Put fire out
Deal with landowner
And it was a state ordinance from Air Resources, who now have to be called.
Finally, get back to station, gear down, clean up
Back to work late
Boss is not happy
I'm not happy
Wife not happy showing up late because had to finish work after being a couple hours on call
Kids missed Dad cause they are already in bed.
And pager goes off at 2am for CPR in progress.

Ya, thanks!

Just burn it...

Note that the "get back to station, gear down, clean up" part is at least an hour (and could be 2-3 this time of year when hoses freeze if they don't have water flowing through them)...
Even if you work someplace that is ok with you responding to a fire call on a slow work day, it takes 10+ minutes to get out of work and headed to the station...

Aaron Z