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RDrancher
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I figure that's not a bad idea. A lot of good folks over there. I need to catch up on the thread that I already have over at LS first.
My New 4in1 Bucket Came In!
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I figure that's not a bad idea. A lot of good folks over there. I need to catch up on the thread that I already have over at LS first.
Rustyiron
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Sorry about your bucket deal, it could have turned out costing you more than it did.
FWIT I had a CAL 4/1 that I can recommend. I have noticed variations in the SS QA dimensions over the years. They are all in the vertical dimension like your problem bucket(s). You shouldn't have to do it but I have welded in a shim on the bottom when the "rattlin'" attachment drives me crazy.
FWIT I had a CAL 4/1 that I can recommend. I have noticed variations in the SS QA dimensions over the years. They are all in the vertical dimension like your problem bucket(s). You shouldn't have to do it but I have welded in a shim on the bottom when the "rattlin'" attachment drives me crazy.
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RDrancher
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Mine was the face of the QA to the bucket, combined with the up and down. It felt like 5000 hour bucket pins and bushings and sounded like it too...even with the bad-to-the-bone Jensen radio on.
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Get a WR Long 4 in 1. The gold standard for 4 in 1 buckets. I have abused mine for 7 years now, never had a problem.
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Hey redneck, out of curiosity does the WR bucket have a pilot valve to keep the bucket from drifting open? The Bradco I used doesn't have one and I had problems with that. I now realize that with the power a ctl puts to the ground, I'm going to want that valve.
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Not sure about what kind of valve it has. I open bucket and it stays at that point no matter what. Even to the point of cutting hard packed crush and run for 2 hours like I did last weekend.
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I have a WRLong 4n1. Don't know what type of valve but I've never seen the bucket drift open.
Oh yeah, and everything lines up and closes tight and evenly.
Rustyiron
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RD, what is this valve for? Have you had 4/1's open like when back dragging? I'm pretty sure that mine did not have one and I had no issues. I'm under the "thinking" that when each end of your cyl. is piped to a closed valve, that unless something is leaking, the cyl. should not move in either direction unless some fluid is getting through it. Just curious and not questioning your post.
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No problem Rusty. I'm not a hydraulic wizard like JJ (obviously), but I've had this happen on a few different rental machines with different buckets. I think that the valve takes care of this, but I'm not sure AND you bring up a good point that I have to check out now. On the Kubota SVL, the bucket is either open or closed...nothing in between. My CASE had a thumb roller that positions the clam wherever I want. Maybe I don't need the valve? I'll have to find out.
Redneck and Island - Thank you for the info. I'm working with lumberjack1986 on a CE (Edge) bucket. I'll see what he can find out about my question above.
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A Pilot Valve locks the cylinder and is only as accurate as the seals in the cylinder. It eliminates drift caused by a leaky valve. I'll go out on a limb here and say 90% of drift is caused by a leaky valve. Rarely is it caused by a leaky cylinder. So the valve is an asset 90% of the time if you are experiencing drift.
Our Backhoe has them on the stabilizer pad cylinders. Couple days ago I broke a hose on the Pressure side of the valve with the pad down and the rear wheels of the hoe off the ground. It stayed in position. I repaired the hose and then was able to lift the pad and lower the tire to the ground.
Our Backhoe has them on the stabilizer pad cylinders. Couple days ago I broke a hose on the Pressure side of the valve with the pad down and the rear wheels of the hoe off the ground. It stayed in position. I repaired the hose and then was able to lift the pad and lower the tire to the ground.
