My new barn / tractor shed

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A Beam in the slab is an extra trench that is dug and looks like a footing that makes the slab a lot stronger. It's not load bearing like a footing, but instead it adds strength to the slab in soils that have extrememe movement.
Eddie

Eddie,

Thanks for that explanation. And I agree the rebar would have been a better way to strengthen the concrete and I've seen it done on many jobs. I just chose to put that money elsewhere.

I appreciate yours and all the other constructive advice. If we all did everything just alike, we wouldn't need forums like this. I've learned a lot from guys like you. Thanks.
 
   / My new barn / tractor shed #32  
A Beam in the slab is an extra trench that is dug and looks like a footing that makes the slab a lot stronger. It's not load bearing like a footing, but instead it adds strength to the slab in soils that have extrememe movement. In and around the Dallas area, the soil is famous for how much it moves. From winter when it's wet and then freezes, to summer when it dries out and cracks, the soil can move several inches rather quickly. A standard slab will crack under those conditions. Another reason for a beam is for load carrying of what is parked on top of it. I've seen this done in shops that will work on the big diesel trucks. Making your slab thicker in those areas does the same thing.

The problem with a beam is that it has to have a rebar frame built into it so that it ties into the rest of the slab. The design, spacing and size of the rebar is critical and somehing that I'm not qualified to design. I've seen it done, but have never tried to figure it out myself. Just digging the trench and adding concrete doesn't really accomplish what the beam is supposed to do.

As for fiber or wire, both have their place, but fiber is more for helping with the hairline cracks that occur in concrete. It doesn't give the slab any strength and it does not replace wire or rebar. Some people like to believe it does because it's cheaper, faster and A LOT EASIER. Wire does a great job if it's in the middle of the slab. Unfortunately, it's just about impossible to get it to do this over an entire slab. YOu have to walk on it to spread the concrete, and when you do this, you push it down to the bottom. Pulling it up while working it sort of looks like it works, but it never does. Rebar that is placed on chairs to keep it in the middle of the slab is my favorite method. It's always right, and there is never any doubt. It's more work and more money, but it's worth it in the long run in my opinion.

Eddie

A beam is just a fiooting that varies in depth and width to stiffen up and add structure to the slab. What is in this project is not really a slab, but light duty paving. My slab is 50x75 with a 25x75 leanto on it. For the slab we used a 30"x12" perimeter beam with the same on a 25' grid so that the beam intersections would fall at the columns for the building. The leanto is simply a 5-6" slab with an 18" footing at the end to give it strength where I drive onto it. The beams have hoops on 30" centers and 3-#5 in the bottom and 2-#5 in the top. If what you have in this project works great then you have saved a bunch of money.
 
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Doors, insulation and siding going on.
Photos 1 & 2 - roll up doors being installed.
Photo 3 - End view of door and mounting.
Photo 4 - Latch on bottom of door, one on each side, to allow locking the door down.
Photo 5 - Double bubble insulation being installed. It made a big difference on the inside temperature.
Photo 6 - Rat seal, held the job up two days waiting on delivery.
Photo 6 - $400 more and I was able to match the color of the siding with the color of my house.
Photo 7 - Insulation against rat seal.
 

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   / My new barn / tractor shed #34  
Sweet building. That double bubble looks a whole lot nicer to work with than the 3" fiberglass I used.
 
   / My new barn / tractor shed #35  
Look awesome.. I should be building a barn in the next 90 days.
 
   / My new barn / tractor shed #36  
Your building looks great! A question on the insulation ... did you use a firing strip between the insulation and metal siding? I was looking at one of the insulation supplier web sites and they recommend the firing strip to create an airspace between the insulation and the metal siding.
 
   / My new barn / tractor shed #37  
Frost is the key. If you don't have to worry about it then life is much easier.
 
   / My new barn / tractor shed #39  
May I ask what brand of roll-up door you chose? They may not be as aesthetically pleasing as conventional sectional doors; but if you choose to work at night with the door open, the roll-up won't block any of your lighting fixtures.
 

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