My New Machine???

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Dougster, i'm not sure what you are going to do with a tractor that big in NH ! With all you Mass folk moving up here.... you've left us no room to run sumthin that large up here. You might as well join the missus and me, and move up above Bang-ger Maine. I'm looking at 40 acre lots in the mid twenties up there. Hard to even find a forty acre lot in NH.... nevermind pay for it. Especially Since NH came up with the "view tax", since they surmised you Mass folk would be happy to pay tripple for a piece of land with a view. Now us life-long New Hampshire-ites can't afford to stay here anymore !! See you in the "good Maine" (to the real Mainiacs, anything below Agusta is just a suburb of Boston) !
 
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Ductape said:
Dougster, i'm not sure what you are going to do with a tractor that big in NH ! With all you Mass folk moving up here.... you've left us no room to run sumthin that large up here. You might as well join the missus and me, and move up above Bang-ger Maine. I'm looking at 40 acre lots in the mid twenties up there. Hard to even find a forty acre lot in NH.... nevermind pay for it. Especially Since NH came up with the "view tax", since they surmised you Mass folk would be happy to pay tripple for a piece of land with a view. Now us life-long New Hampshire-ites can't afford to stay here anymore !! See you in the "good Maine" (to the real Mainiacs, anything below Agusta is just a suburb of Boston) !
I know... I know. :eek: What can I say??? :rolleyes: I've got to go somewhere. I can't afford to stay here in liberal loony, endlessly corrupt Taxachusetts.

And yes, the "view tax" is really quite bizarre. Imagine what Brian (MtnViewRanch) would have to pay!!! :eek: It boggles the mind!!! :eek:

I'll be a good New Hampshire resident. I promise!!! :D

Dougster
 
   / My New Machine??? #63  
Yep..... strange isn't it (the view tax)? Must be NHs way of keeping up with the looniness of Ma, and even Ca. I know you'll be a good NH resident..... you should really be out of there already. With any luck i may be in Me. by then...... but i'm having a hard time talking Whats-Her-Name into jumping in feet first.
 
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Dougster said:
I know... I know. :eek: What can I say??? :rolleyes: I've got to go somewhere. I can't afford to stay here in liberal loony, endlessly corrupt Taxachusetts.

And yes, the "view tax" is really quite bizarre. Imagine what Brian (MtnViewRanch) would have to pay!!! :eek: It boggles the mind!!! :eek:

I'll be a good New Hampshire resident. I promise!!! :D

Dougster

Is the view tax for what you can see or how far. Because if it is for how far you can see, if & when that tax reaches California, I'm in biiiiiiiiiig trouble.:)
 
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Ductape said:
I know you'll be a good NH resident..... you should really be out of there already.
Yes, I hear you. But the GF still has a few years left to work (in Boston) and family still needs me around these parts a little while longer. My 5-yr ARM mortgage explodes near the end of next year and I am not in a position to refinance. I'm also hoping property values recover a bit by then. I'll need to sell out and move by the summer of 2009 at the latest or face foreclosure. :eek:

Dougster
 
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MtnViewRanch said:
Is the view tax for what you can see or how far. Because if it is for how far you can see, if & when that tax reaches California, I'm in biiiiiiiiiig trouble.:)
Oh, you'd be in big trouble alright! Take what you are paying now and multiple it by 6 or 7. That's the "view factor" they apply for a place like yours! Remember, that with no sales tax or income tax, NH relies heavily on property taxes (plus state sales of booze...Hic!). This is their way of socking it to the "rich" folks who can afford to live in a place with a good view of the mountains.

It is the new and ugly "dark side" of the otherwise fine land of Live Free or Die. :eek:

Dougster
 
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While it isn't a great system, I'll stick with it. Compare our total tax burden with any of our neighboring states and you'll see that we do ok. Many New England states are starting to catch up on property tax yet still bleed 'em dry with the income and sales tax. There are many states where property tax is a bargain but, they aren't in New England!
We need a system that can test incoming residents to see if they can support themselves or do we need to support them. The former are welcomed, the latter are given a bus ticket to Massachusetts! :eek:
 
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The key to managing high property taxes is, buy more than 10 acres. You need at least that to put in current use. The people with 2-10 acres total are really getting whacked on property taxes.
We had a front page article awhile back about a local landowner griping about his new tax rate, it was something around $70 a day. What seemed a bit hard to take was the quiet disclosure that he seemed more than happy to see the small parcel he was able to subdivide and sell to our new governor would fetch a shy $1,000,000. You can't have it both ways.
Folks on a fixed income, I can sympathize with. It's hard to predict such large increases in taxes.
 
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shvl73 said:
While it isn't a great system, I'll stick with it. Compare our total tax burden with any of our neighboring states and you'll see that we do ok. Many New England states are starting to catch up on property tax yet still bleed 'em dry with the income and sales tax. There are many states where property tax is a bargain but, they aren't in New England!
We need a system that can test incoming residents to see if they can support themselves or do we need to support them. The former are welcomed, the latter are given a bus ticket to Massachusetts! :eek:
shvl73 said:
The key to managing high property taxes is, buy more than 10 acres. You need at least that to put in current use. The people with 2-10 acres total are really getting whacked on property taxes.
We had a front page article awhile back about a local landowner griping about his new tax rate, it was something around $70 a day. What seemed a bit hard to take was the quiet disclosure that he seemed more than happy to see the small parcel he was able to subdivide and sell to our new governor would fetch a shy $1,000,000. You can't have it both ways.
Folks on a fixed income, I can sympathize with. It's hard to predict such large increases in taxes.
We've certainly been warned enough times to be extremely careful about where and what we buy. We've been told that property taxes will vary wildly depending on location. I think it's not overstating it to say that property taxes will determine where and what we buy... and what we decide to build... even more so than purchase price and building costs. This will be our retirement home... hopefully semi-retirement for a while in my case... and we won't be in a position to pay crazy high property taxes merely for a "view"! :eek:

Dougster
 
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Ductape said:
Dougster, i'm not sure what you are going to do with a tractor that big in NH ! With all you Mass folk moving up here.... you've left us no room to run sumthin that large up here. You might as well join the missus and me, and move up above Bang-ger Maine. I'm looking at 40 acre lots in the mid twenties up there. Hard to even find a forty acre lot in NH.... nevermind pay for it. Especially Since NH came up with the "view tax", since they surmised you Mass folk would be happy to pay tripple for a piece of land with a view. Now us life-long New Hampshire-ites can't afford to stay here anymore !! See you in the "good Maine" (to the real Mainiacs, anything below Agusta is just a suburb of Boston) !


Hey if you think NH has a monoply on the view tax you are mistaken. The view tax, is just one of the many ways towns in the state of Maine use to seperate us from our money. Have you ever heard of a farm that has been in the family for three generations being assesed and taxed as developabale land. We have tha same problem over here as any where else. People from away are willing to pay an ungodly amount of money for a building lot, all this does is raise everyone elses property values.
As far as everything south of Augusta, I have signed that petition ten times now. I think the new one going around gives everything south of Augusta back to Mass., heck most of the people from there that come up here believe that Maine belongs to MA anyway. :eek: I am all for it give it back to them, and put up a wall with gaurds and the whole nine yards.
 

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