My NX6010

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Wow. :shocked: What do you suspect happened to cause the four-quart shortfall? That's pretty serious. You surely would have noticed that much of a leak in 50 hrs., so probably inattention en route to you. I don't know if the tractors ship from Korea with the axle filled. Maybe it's done in Wendell, NC. It might even be a prep item at the dealer at the time the wheels are mounted.

With no leaks and a change on the horizon at 50 hours looming nigh, I never bothered checking the front axle dipstick. Which is to say, the axle was never filled to its stated capacity. I imagine that fully greasing everything and checking and topping off all fluids is a dealer prep thing. That said, I didn't see anything in the fluid that would give me cause to suspect damage. I filled the front axle with GL5 API rated 80W-90 gear oil.

That said, don't forget to crawl under your tractor and hit the front axle zerks.

Today's excitement is bypassing part of the emissions system on my F150 in favor of a giant catch-can so the intake valves don't carbon up because of this stupid problem:

 
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Yeesh. One of my coworkers got a new F-150 with Ecoboost about a month ago, and while it was just a few days old, the engine crapped out while driving in a rainstorm on the highway. Some issue with condensation or something. Hard to believe. Dealer did something to reset the computer and made another tweak under warranty, and it hasn't happened since, but still a bit disappointing.
 
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Yeesh. One of my coworkers got a new F-150 with Ecoboost about a month ago, and while it was just a few days old, the engine crapped out while driving in a rainstorm on the highway. Some issue with condensation or something. Hard to believe. Dealer did something to reset the computer and made another tweak under warranty, and it hasn't happened since, but still a bit disappointing.

The water condensation is a different issue. We have the same problem is silly, over-boosted hotrods and so we drill hole in the lowest point of the intercooler which pushes condensed water out underboost, but that doesn't stop water from condensing out in a pressure drop. Ford has been working around this issue by slowly making their intercoolers less efficient and by decreasing the spark plug gap so as to be less likely to misfire, but occasionally, a EB engine will hydraulically lock a cylinder and throw a rod through the block. Ford isn't acknowledging the issue but quietly redesigned a 2.7L V6 EB that incorporates all the best ideas and design changes.

Anyway, I had fitting issues with mounting the giant catch-can, and so I get to do more of the same Sunday.

I did add a slightly better way of holding the hard lines down on my tractor.

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I've had 3-4 turbo cars with an intercooler and never heard of this before, so is it a case where Ford is new to turbo/IC engines on a large-scale of production, and has some learning to do? I know they had turbo motors on the SVO Mustang a long time ago, and a Merkur coupe, but those were all small-scale production. And if I recall right, the Merkur was a European model, so likely engineered overseas. Just seems like a rookie mistake to not handle IC moisture properly.
 
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A lot of manufactures have this problem. VW, the company that sells the most turbo charged engines have this same problem too. It is easily solved with a water/air inter cooler than the air/air inter cooler. VW has has plenty of TDI's hydro lock. The new VW engines all have the water/air inter cooler.
 
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I've had 3-4 turbo cars with an intercooler and never heard of this before, so is it a case where Ford is new to turbo/IC engines on a large-scale of production, and has some learning to do? I know they had turbo motors on the SVO Mustang a long time ago, and a Merkur coupe, but those were all small-scale production. And if I recall right, the Merkur was a European model, so likely engineered overseas. Just seems like a rookie mistake to not handle IC moisture properly.

No ... their diesels since about 1995 have all had turbo's. We also have an 87 & 88 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe in my family. So, they're no stranger to a turbo charger
 
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I've had 3-4 turbo cars with an intercooler and never heard of this before, so is it a case where Ford is new to turbo/IC engines on a large-scale of production, and has some learning to do? I know they had turbo motors on the SVO Mustang a long time ago, and a Merkur coupe, but those were all small-scale production. And if I recall right, the Merkur was a European model, so likely engineered overseas. Just seems like a rookie mistake to not handle IC moisture properly.

Trucks have a super wide dynamic of loads. Ford tested basically at maximum load all the time. Apparently, it never occurred to them the guy trying to get good gas milage would, from time to time, floor it.

My sister is a mechanical engineer and just from her tales, i can see how stuff like this happens. The classic story is the toothpaste factory.

A Short Story for Engineers
You don’t have to be an engineer to appreciate this story.

A toothpaste factory had a problem: Due to the way the production line was set up, sometimes empty boxes were shipped without the tube inside. People with experience in designing production lines will tell you how difficult it is to have everything happen with timings so precise that every single unit coming off of it is perfect 100% of the time. Small variations in the environment (which cannot be controlled in a cost-effective fashion) mean quality assurance checks must be smartly distributed across the production line so that customers all the way down to the supermarket won’t get frustrated and purchase another product instead.

Understanding how important that was, the CEO of the toothpaste factory gathered the top people in the company together. Since their own engineering department was already stretched too thin, they decided to hire an external engineering company to solve their empty boxes problem.

The project followed the usual process: budget and project sponsor allocated, RFP (request for proposal), third-parties selected, and six months (and $8 million) later a fantastic solution was delivered — on time, on budget, high quality and everyone in the project had a great time. The problem was solved by using high-tech precision scales that would sound a bell and flash lights whenever a toothpaste box would weigh less than it should. The line would stop, and someone had to walk over and yank the defective box off the line, then press another button to re-start the line.

A short time later, the CEO decided to have a look at the ROI (return on investment) of the project: amazing results! No empty boxes ever shipped out of the factory after the scales were put in place. There were very few customer complaints, and they were gaining market share. “That was some money well spent!” he said, before looking closely at the other statistics in the report.

The number of defects picked up by the scales was 0 after three weeks of production use. How could that be? It should have been picking up at least a dozen a day, so maybe there was something wrong with the report. He filed a bug against it, and after some investigation, the engineers indicated the statistics were indeed correct. The scales were NOT picking up any defects, because all boxes that got to that point in the conveyor belt were good.

Perplexed, the CEO traveled down to the factory and walked up to the part of the line where the precision scales were installed. A few feet before the scale, a $20 desk fan was blowing any empty boxes off the belt and into a bin. Puzzled, the CEO turned to one of the workers who stated, “Oh, that? One of the guys put it there ’cause he was tired of walking over every time the bell rang.”
 
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In other news, it looks like Kioti has their backhoe for the NX and DX series, the subframe-mounted KB2485.

KB2485 Backhoe | Kioti Tractors

Hopefully Kioti has redesigned the subframe to keep it from cracking.

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