My perfect BX23 replacement list ......

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jim_wilson

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There have been a few posts appearing with tidbits of info about new Kubotas coming next year. Supposedly there is a replacement in the works for the BX23. So I figured I would put my laundry list of wishes out in the faint hope that Kubota actually reads these forums and this might strike a nerve somewhere. Note - these are not necessarily in order of preference.

1) Fix the seat revolving mechanism - mine has come apart 4 times at last count. Twice it forced me to stop working with the tractor and wait until the next day when I could get to the dealer for parts and or repair.
2) Come up with an air cleaner bracket that does not break constantly
3) More lift/breakout capacity on the FEL
4) Quick attach feature on the FEL - the JD 2210 has it in this class tractor - the BX should be competitive
5) Deeper digging capability on the backhoe
7) More than 140 degree rotation on the backhoe boom.
8) Quick attach on the backhoe bucket (the Kubota K008 excavator has it - maybe it could be adapted)
9) A tachometer
10) A better FEL bucket level indicator
11) R4 tire option - this might mean going to 10" rims on the front but that is ok - I think the 10" front tired tractors like the 2210 and GC2300 series look "cooler" with those sized tires anyway.
12) Brackets on ROPS for mounting lights - if they were factory welded there could be no complaints about modifications after the fact.
13) Provision for auxiliary hydraulics on the backhoe. There was a recent thread from a TBN member who came up with a thumb for his BX23 that turned out really slick. Some factory provision for this would be nice.
14) Better engine compartment access. The tilt up hood on the NH TZ series looks pretty slick. I think the new Deere 2305 has nice engine compartment access too.
15) Curved FEL arms and matching hood for better view of FEL bucket.
16) Built in provision on front of frame for suitcase weights like the Deere 2305 has.
17)Fix whatever is causing BX front axles to get leaks in their kingpin seals (numerous posters on TBN have run across this as have I)
18) Position control on the 3pt hitch.
19) Tell the guys at the rear wheel rim factory to get their paint mix correct. The rear rims on my BX had a faded orange color to them when I got the tractor - I have seen numerous other BX's with this same problem.


Did I miss anything?
 
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How about a large, bright, faceted red idiot light on dash for the parking brake.
 
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Jim,

You're no longer talking about a BX with all the things you added/desire. Basically you have designed a new tractor. Maybe you sould look into the new 2630/3030 /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif The new Bs are like BXs on steroids....give them a look.
 
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Both great posts full of great ideas...........one more. How to convince the wife the "new and improved" is enough improved so I can buy a new one........again!
 
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I actually have sat on a B3030 and would be seriously thinking about one as a replacement for a BX23 but for one thing - their physical size. I just don't need a tractor that big.

I don't envision a BX replacement with the things I mention having to be much if any bigger than the current BX. The only things on the list that I can see maybe being related to physical size is the backhoe boom swing and the digging depth. I think all of the others are more to do with making the tractor more versatile and/or fixing problems that have been found with the current generation of BX's.
 
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The Brake On Idiot light is a must. I need to build one for mine I guess!

Factory rear remote should be a standard......... That's on my list as well to install, when the $$$$ accumulate.

Doubt that Kubota would offer this, but I'm building/installing a skid plate to protect the belly before I do any more loader work.....

I find that I dream that if my BX2200 was just 60-100% scaled up, I would enjoy it more. But my budget was tapped with the 2200....... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Enjoy,
ron
 
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A cab that will accommodate the backhoe...... choice of colors... I would like Black Cherry Metal-flake on mine.... with a cherry red revolving dome on the top..... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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How about an integrated hyd. valve and joystick like the 2210/2305? I just can't stand that add-on valve next to the steering wheel. When you take the loader off for a different front attachment, that thing is just gawdy, and in the way. I would much prefer the integrated joystick, and that does for all the sub-compacts, not just the 'bota.
 
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The only objection I have to the integrated joystick is that it pretty much prevents you from exiting the tractor on the right hand side unless you want to risk an unscheduled colonoscopy. I have sat on the 2210 a number of times and although I like the location of it's joystick for working I don't like it for the reason I mentioned above. Also I don't think the hydraulic hoses are as well protected on the Deere as they are on the BX. Every time I look at a 2210 I always think of brushing by some branches and watching all my hydraulic fluid come bursting out as I drive by with a hose hooked over a branch.
 
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I guess it's just they reserve a lot of what you're looking for for the larger machines....not sure if that marketing or not.

Loader capacity is enough on the BX IMO. It doesn't weigh much and more capacity could spell trouble for the operator, especially for the inexperienced which many BX owners are when they take delivery.

Quick attach on the hoe.....not sure what you'd need that for with such a small hoe. Maybe a bigger bucket, but it seems pretty well matched as is. JMO, nothing more /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Have you checked out a B7610 Jim? Nice machine right between the BX and the 3030.
 
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Agree with 'em all. Especially the tach & taller front tire suggestions. I do have just a few pet peeves agin my otherwise very capable BX23.

I'd like to see the ROPS having the ability to fold down a full 180 degrees. When mowing close in to buildings & fences around and under trees, the folded ROPS keeps me from cutting in close due to avoiding makeing contact w/the fences and walls.
The B series tractors have this feature btw.

I'd also like to either see a telecopeing tilt steering wheel or the European deep dish steering wheel made available here. As it is now, with the seat being higher due to the additional hardware necessary for spinning it around for BH operation, it places the operator higher and further away than on the other BX series tractors. This enhansement would definitely improve operator comfort.

Finally I'd like to see more power out of the hydraulic system, specifically, increasing pump operating pressure. As it is now, feathering the BH significantly slows down operation. And certain combinations of operations can slow the BH to almost a compete stop!
I'd also like to see a 16" BH bucket option.

Volfandt
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( A cab that will accommodate the backhoe...... choice of colors... I would like Black Cherry Metal-flake on mine.... with a cherry red revolving dome on the top..... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif )</font>Your a sick man Junky! Everybody knows that wouldn't look half as good as the gold metal flake. LOL.

On that note though. Rumor has it that carver has a cab in the works for us BX23 owners. Not sure if we will get our choice of colors though! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Correction: I meant to say Curtis is working on a cab not carver. Sry
 
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I guess it goes without saying that we want all this for the same or less money as the current model:)
 
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( A cab that will accommodate the backhoe......)</font>

Those of us in hot climates need AC with that! And no loss of hp please. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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1 TACK
2 BRAKE IDIOT LITE
3 LITES STANDARD ON ROPS[AND BACK HOE LIGHTING]
4 HYDRAULIC THUMB
5 CELL PHONE HOLDER
6 TOOL BOX
7 EXTENDER HOE
[ ALL ABOVE MUST KEEP BOTA,AT HER CURRENT WEIGHT[UNTIL I GET MY ONE TON DUMP IM LOOKING FOR]
[what the heck,i cant afford the gas to snowmobile this winter,i minds well build it myself,to keep me busy]
 
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A new proprietary mid-mount PTO powered string trimmer, designed specifically to mount on the same suspension that the MMM does. These photos are from a 2 y.o. thread and were attachments JN4310 posted showing his home built string trimmer mounted to the side of his JD garden tractor and powered by the pully and belt PTO. A similar device that would connect to the MMM suspension on a BX would be brilliant.

Photo 1

Photo 2

Photo 3

Photo 4

Photo 5

Neil Messick, if you like this idea, is there any way you could bring it to the attention of Kubota engineers?
 

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