My Senior design project - a "Swamp Thing" tracked vehicle clone

   / My Senior design project - a "Swamp Thing" tracked vehicle clone
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A quick update - recently, I did take off the teeth from the front sprockets and removed a link from the new #50 roller chains to effectively loosen the tension on the tracks. I took it out for a short spin (so as to not mess up the grass too much due to only 3" of snow) and the reduced track noise sounded promising. More evaluation/adjustment is needed. Today, I made brackets and mounted a pair of small rear side mirrors so I can view the tracks so I don't run over things. A rear-view cam & monitor may also be worth installing.
 

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   / My Senior design project - a "Swamp Thing" tracked vehicle clone #642  
Just ran across your thread. In my brief review, you and I have had somewhat similar trials/tribulations. I built a similar size cat recently.

Engine:Yamaha RX1 4 stroke 4 cylinder 140hp/85ft/lbs
Transmission: Stock Yamaha CVT to "chain drive differential" 4:1 reduction
Differential: Chevy 10 bolt from Suburban
Steering: Brake steering similar to yours
Weight: 2,000lbs
Tracks: 24" wide
PSI: About 0.55lbs/sq/in

Struggles:
-track noise, yup, same as you
-track pitch issues, intermittently yes, fixed to some degree with track tension
-hot brakes, yes, but they otherwise work great (UTV calipers x 2 per rotor)
-broke one axle (because I welded one up for length)
-new axles aren't welded, doubt they will break
-turning in deep snow requires a fair bit of HP and energy

Plans:
-probably convert to hydrostatic this summer, we'll see.

Nice work!
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   / My Senior design project - a "Swamp Thing" tracked vehicle clone
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I built a similar size cat recently...
Hi - your build looks interesting especially using a CVT drive. Do you have a blog somewhere with the build details? I didn't want to deal with the complexity and cost of using a hydraulic drive so I went with the Toyota engine.
 
   / My Senior design project - a "Swamp Thing" tracked vehicle clone #644  
Hi - your build looks interesting especially using a CVT drive. Do you have a blog somewhere with the build details? I didn't want to deal with the complexity and cost of using a hydraulic drive so I went with the Toyota engine.
No blog or specific build details. The CVT was tricky getting alignment/deflection correct, but works fine so far. I ran sprocket/chain 4:1 off of the secondary clutch/shaft down to "chain drive" differential which is just a 60t sprocket taking the place of the ring gear. These configurations are used when people put motorcycle engines in small cars.

The CVT is a common Russian tracked vehicle build technique, but they often use much smaller engines. They often do engine to CVT to chain drive to automotive transmission to standard differential/axle unmodified. This makes a wider tracked vehicle because rear axle isn't cut down, but it keeps the fabrication to a minimum.

I watched your track pitch videos and noise. I chased the same damn noise on mine. Thought it was a million different things but ultimately it's occasional track noise/binding. It's hard, because you have to recruit someone to shoot video of it to diagnose it. But mine is very similar.

I'd like to 3D print a new sprocket design/mold and ultimately make polyurethane sprockets. But, a million other tweaks have taken priority.
 
   / My Senior design project - a "Swamp Thing" tracked vehicle clone #646  
The pioneers, in my opinion, are the Russians. I watched hundreds of videos. Those guys are building functional vehicles out of scrap. Lot to learn from them, albeit with a huge language barrier.
 
   / My Senior design project - a "Swamp Thing" tracked vehicle clone
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#647  
I've thought about making polyurethane teeth as they are softer than the acetal I'm now using. They should be quieter if I want to go that route. Enough polyurethane stock for my 16 drive sprocket teeth (1.5" x 2" x 4") would run about $200.
 
   / My Senior design project - a "Swamp Thing" tracked vehicle clone #648  
Yeah, I'm a metal on metal guy with hopes to do better in the future. I did use UHMPE teeth similar to yours but chewed them up faster than I thought.
 
   / My Senior design project - a "Swamp Thing" tracked vehicle clone
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Hey TH - it would be great if you could start a thread in this forum and post some photos and dialog of your exploits to share with the rest of us knuckleheads!
 
   / My Senior design project - a "Swamp Thing" tracked vehicle clone #650  
Hey TH - it would be great if you could start a thread in this forum and post some photos and dialog of your exploits to share with the rest of us knuckleheads!
I could but my engineering degree is all my psychotic/neuroticsm with no actual degree, and my fabrication skills are rudimentary with only the simplest of tools. Which is why I admire the Russian builds.
 

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